The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering - 2022

And by far the most obscenely expensive event of the week.

 

Other events the same weekend are much more expensive.

Marcel Massini

 

Yes, McCall & Quail are (and have always been) far more "luxury lifestyle" than car events.
C. I. and even Pebble have steadily been declining to same direction for a long time already.

 

I have shown 2 years, '19 with a 1960 Alfa 200o Touring Spider and 2016 with a Jaguar Project 7 .... what a fun event, all the champagne and caviar coupled with food stations linked to Peninsula Hotels from all over the world. Surrounded by remarkable cars and interesting cars from all walks of car life....spouses and friends love the vibe and car folks get to enjoy special, unique and an amazing array of automotive history.

 

Such as? I was under the impression that the 2 most expensive car (exhibiting) events were Quail and McCall's jet center event (now owned by Hagerty and called Motolux...$450 base ticket price). Pebble is $425 base, Concorso was as low as $120 (early exhibitor registration). And I was referring to events open to the general public requiring only to cough up the ticket price.

 

IMO, the best event during car week.

 

For my wife and I and friends, Quail is the best event. The food is sublime, we love the oysters and caviar (and usually order the caviar from their booth to be shipped to our home). The whole event is a huge party.
I’ll be displaying my MurcieSV this year.
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It would be a tremendous honor for them to be able to show a biturbo like mine. Why aren’t they offering to subsidize transportation and admission for the displayers?

I had such great times at CI back in the day and getting lunch at Baja Cantina.

 

Sniff, when you run with the big dogs, you have to be able to lift your leg high.

 

Which Monterey Car Week event would it be best for Ferrari to introduce their SUV?


I say Quail because the tickets cost more, so I'm guessing the guests have more money. Or maybe there's demographic studies that show the age range of Quail visitors is less than that of Pebble Beach concours attendees. Ferrari needs owners with brown , black or blonde hair not the grayze guys. And the Quail is experienced having these elevated stages in the midst of the show. On the other hand Ferrari already paid Pebble for the Ferrari tour Saturday and the Ferrari Concorso Sunday so what better venue to roll it out than those two conjoined events? (the Concorso just yards away from the Pebble Beach concours) I can't believe Ferrai needs to adhere to that September roll-out previously announced--what show could have more die-hard enthusiasts than these two Monterey events? On the other hand, Ferrari is at pains to 'splain why they're calling it a sports car so maybe a wild card would be to have it at neither the Quail or Pebble but instead as Pace car at the Monterey races followed by a lot of vintage Ferraris in a moving (Indy style) start. But I'd have a GP driver at the wheel with lots of hours logged in the SUV at Laguna before I'd do that.......

 

Quail would be awesome, but won’t happen.
If anything, reveal would be at Casa Ferrari like last year when they did the beautiful unveiling of the 296.
I was under the impression the reveal would be September, if so, what event in September?


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Just goes to show Monterey is dead, greedculation at auctions, sterile concours and snotty parties, no one attending the races -remember those? Actual racing? What these cars were made for?!- Give me Le Mans Classic any day, still buzzing two weeks later.

 

While I wouldn’t quite call Monterey “dead” yet, it has been on steady decline for years (or longer ?) for many of your aforementioned reasons and while I’ve never been a big (modern or vintage) racing enthusiast nor have attended LMC (or any other European/UK vintage racing events), spectating/walking through pits during Historics at Laguna Seca has become one of the less than handful of organized events during Monterey I actually enjoy and look forward to every year.
Only disappointment, if you will, is to see too many same cars/participants year after year.

 

I don’t know how long you’ve been attending, but I have since early ‘90s and in my opinion, in past 5-10 years, the overall quality of events has steadily declined and one of the contributing factors has been overcrowding (which I don’t enjoy), leading to excessive price increases without any added value.
On the contrary, one actually appears to get a lot less for $$s spent than 10+ years ago.

I will probably continue to attend some of the events out of habit for couple of more years, while hoping/wishing for serious improvements (although not holding my breath on those), but probably never “show” my own cars (admiration or approval of them by others has never been important for me) and most of my clients don’t seem very interested in it either.
I guess we just celebrate and enjoy our vintage cars by driving them as much as possible, but as you noted, to each their own.

 

Agreed.

 

The problem with the racing at Laguna Seca began when Steve Earle was kicked out, and suddenly some Trans Am Mustangs and the like arrived in large masses.
Plus there's always a collision with the regular historic races at Laguna with all the other events that same week and that's why one has to go to the PRE-Historics, otherwise there's no chance to also visit Laguna Seca in the days between 16 and 21 August. Simply too many events all at the same time. As I said in the past already, one needs a helicopter to do it all and I really wonder why no smart American businessman has come up yet with the idea of offering such a service for Monterey Peninsula tourists that wanna do it all. I am sure there's plenty of $$$ to be made.

Marcel Massini

 

One of the reasons for your position is as I recall you are relatively new to going. In the earlier years it was very different. I have a saying for it and most who have been going for several decades agree. It is a victim of its own success. Even as late as the 90's I could go to one of the several events and strike up a conversation with one of the several other attendees about whatever we were looking at. These days with the massive crowds I find since it is a destination trip it is highly likely that person next to me knows nothing of what I am looking at. To he or she it is just the place to be that weekend and not a serious hard core enthusiast. You used to be able to go spend a few hours at one of the shows then swing over to the race track for a few hours. Now you cannot even get from one of the shows to the race track, not on the same day. I will admit living an hour away made it a lot more attractive and could just drive back and forth rather than stay if needed but the hours to get anywhere, the expense of everything just did it for me but as I said I was going from pretty much the beginning and it evolved into something I have no time or tolerance for.

 

In the 80's ? Helicopters used to be a regular sight. I suspect there is good reason they are no longer seen. Maybe they went the same way and for the same reason as unmuffled race cars.

 

We were invited to bring the LM002 but only got about 2 months notice and this time of year that was just a non starter. It seem they are doing an LM002 display and would have liked to attend but I am still wondering who can do that on so little notice.

Now if they were to invite people now for next year that might meet with some success. Its the Lamborghini way.

 

This year, apparently the final day of the Monterey Historic Races at Laguna Seca will be held on Saturday (rather than the usual Sunday).