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The real F40 with VIN 90969? (2nd is 85397)

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  1. PAUL500

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    Bodies were made and numbered by a subcontractor, then probably just piled up and drawn from that random pile during the actual cars assembly, more than likely the low number bodies were at the back of that pile so sat around for a while until they got low on stock at Maranello.

    The quality will have improved as well as they refined the body build process.

    Its common with many special builds, only someone like Porsche may be a bit more fastidious with trying to get a matching numbers set closer together.
     
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  3. PAUL500

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    #77 PAUL500, Feb 1, 2021
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    The blue car has now dropped off the selling dealers website and is not listed as sold either!

    I hope they had not been duped into buying it and it was just a SOR listing.

    Just re read the blurb again on the pistonheads advert and the classiche docs for that one are also dated 2014!!!!
     
  4. 275GTB

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    piston heads still have it for the moment if you want to save or look at any photos:
    Used Ferrari F40 Cat, Non Adjust for sale | PistonHeads UK
     
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  8. 275GTB

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    why are some chassis tags Black, other red, and as we saw on the blue car it had a blue chassis tag with a Classiche logo on it - does the colour changes signify anything?
     
  9. 275GTB

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    i also think the FerrariChat moderators need to pull out everything from page 148, post 3700 onwards and create this as a separate dedicated thread, it is very important historical information regarding these cars, and it deserves to be stand alone and not lost in a few months
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    I do agree with this.
    Suggest you use the report button, bottom left, to contact mods.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  11. Marcel Massini

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    Red and blue are fakes, reproductions. Have also seen a green one.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  13. PAUL500

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    If someone is going to fake/replicate a tag, then why lay it out correctly but print it the wrong colour, makes no sense.

    Plenty of correct blank ones out there of all these tags.
     
  14. ross

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    agreed.
    mods pls create a new thread for this subject
     
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  15. Marcel Massini

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  16. joe sackey

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    Out of sequence manufacturing is very common with other makers besides Ferrari in that era and earlier.
     
  17. 365GTC/4

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    What a cheat. Might be a nice guy though?
     
  18. Simon

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    I created the new thread for 90969.
    If I have moved a post I shouldn't have, or missed something back in the F40 picture thread, please report the posts with a quick message.
     
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  19. 360C

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    Any update on the body number ID marks on the Red Australian car?
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    Blue F40 "90969" at dealer Kaaimans, UK:
    Has anybody a photo of the classiche certificate or the red book?
    Or is it just the pistonheads website description that claims it has been certified in 2014?

    Marcel Massini
     
  21. borja_tf

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    coincidentally it seems that the two ferrari f40 obtained the certification in 2014...

    Red:
    Blue:
    Only in the ad for the red one is photographic of the red book shown
     
  22. Collesano

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  23. PAUL500

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    Blue one now listed as sold on Pistonheads.

    I imagine however its probably heading back to Dubai pronto after this thread appeared!

    I had never heard of that dealer but they have some impressive stock.
     
  24. 360C

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    Hard to imagine it is anything but a figment of the imagination given the extraordinarily obvious anomalies in the Blue car. Stranger things have happened.
     
  25. Marcel Massini

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    A guy named Gary T. of Kaaimans Int'l contacted me yesterday by text message at 4.41 pm Swiss time but then suddenly I never heard from him again.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  26. Marcel Massini

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    It appears that one of the two "90969" is somehow connected to a person named Abdul Razak Mohammed Nezir Amin.
    Do a google search.

    Marcel Massini
     
  27. 275GTB

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    The red Australian car: earlier in this thread, Lee has supplied very clear pictures of the Classiche Certificate and pages from the red book, showing all the number to be correct, chassis, engine, gearbox, assembly etc
     
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