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The Restoration of -1963 Ferrari 250 GTE #4879

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  1. Zanny1

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    #226 Zanny1, Sep 17, 2014
    Martin
    One of the BEST posts EVER on Ferrarichat. Thank you for taking the time to provide a step by step history of this 2-1/2 year odyssey.
     
  2. Martin M

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    #227 Martin M, Sep 17, 2014
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    635 CSI, The electric antenna is right side of wing. The radio is the delux series of Blaupunkt with early power transistors. The channels search is automatic, one touch to the button.

    Ed Niles, Yes we are two-man shop. We buy service mostly four work phase from our “subcontractors"” : bodywork, paint job, upholstery and chrome, etc plating.
    All the other work A to Z we carry in our shop. I totally agree the battery is modern, valve covers must be full wrinkle and ground braker is not ment for the car.
    Also fuel line ferrules are not cadium plated (hard to find cadium plating near our country). But these are just tiny things what are behind this big work. We will correct them very soon as we got time :)

    Thanks for the compliments!

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    #228 Darren C, Sep 17, 2014
    Martin, I have just one word....

    Beautiful!
     
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    #230 Martin M, Sep 17, 2014
    Hi John,

    The full sector is done by lathe. Then it is cut to a quarter and hand sliced by another identical machinery gear wheel teeth distribution what I was lucky to found.
    Tricky but can be done.

    Martin
     
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    #231 John Vardanian, Sep 17, 2014
    I thought so, Martin. Great work on this, BTW!

    I broke one a couple years ago and knocked on every door I knew for a spare, could not find any. I was about to resort to a solution like yours when I found a connection at the UK, they had two left. I asked Weber when they would have more, was told there were no plans to make them in the foreseeable future.

    john
     
  7. Martin M

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    #232 Martin M, Sep 17, 2014
    John, I had the same answer from Weber you know. Then I decided to not waste more time behind the computer and let the lathe roll...

    Martin
     
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    #233 rocnred, Sep 17, 2014
    Wow! It is hard to believe the car we see at the end is the same car we saw on page 1. You 2 are magicians. Absolutely beautiful.
     
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    #235 Brooklands, Sep 17, 2014
    Amazing work. Incredible to see that after all that work, the first outside pictures were in the snow.
     
  11. Martin M

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    #236 Martin M, Sep 18, 2014
    John, the bell is made also using lathe.

    Martin
     
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    #237 Brooklands, Sep 18, 2014
    Martin, turning that thin walled bell, making your own head studs, and all the other items you documented have had me re-reading this whole thread in awe a couple times. Many shops post loads of great photos of the tin bashing, and engine building, but all the photos of gauge & carb rebuilds, laser etching bevels, and the hundreds of other details you posted here are hugely appreciated to those of us doing far simpler restorations.
     
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    #238 ME308, Sep 19, 2014

    great work ! any new project in your mind ? ;)
     
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    #239 635CSI, Sep 21, 2014
    Gosh Martin another question for you ( or anybody else).
    On my car the air filter holder that sits on top of the carbs has been incorrectly painted with a crinkle finish. Looking at your car and others the top and bottom of the box are painted smooth satin black. The grill around the side of the unit appears shiney and reflective.
    Is it chrome plated ?
     
  15. Martin M

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    #240 Martin M, Sep 21, 2014
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    Hello,

    Thank you all for the compliments.

    635 CSI, The top and bottom is painted satin black. The mesh/grill is nickle plated but somehow it turned out so shiny. I told to plater that they do not polish it too good to have the final result matt surface.

    Michael, We are open on any interesting car project from pre-war cars to classic cars.
    So one of the next project is pre-war Mercedes-Benz restoration.

    Sorry, this goes offtopic but talking about past, we had in work:


    1968 Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow I
    1927 Buick Model 28
    1963 Alfa Romeo 2600 Spyder
    1935 MG PB Midget Supercharged

    Regards
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    #241 330 4HL, Sep 21, 2014
    Hi Martin,

    how is you managed to forget to restore the suitcase??

    :)

    -truly awesome (in the truest meaning of the word) project!
     
  17. Martin M

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    #242 Martin M, Sep 21, 2014
    Rick, we wanted to keep toolbag with tools and suitcase in original authentic condition to show what kind of life has the car lived.
     
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    #243 christc, Oct 9, 2014
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    Hi Martin,

    this is really the most comprehensive report on the most fantastic restoration i have seen. i am at the moment in the process of doing a resto on my 250 GTE and use your photos as refernce. Thanks.
    I do have some questions you for sure can easily answer:
    1.) What paint/color code did you use on the engine block and on the gearbox?
    2.) What piston manufacturer did you use?
    3.) What type of insulation/damping material did you use on the roof and doors? Also something from Teroson?

    Thanks for some hints... and let us know about your next resto, even if it is no Ferrari.

    Cheers
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  19. Martin M

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    #244 Martin M, Oct 10, 2014
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    Christopher, thank you for the compliments.

    1. I really do not remember I will look on my old Standox invoices and let you know.
    2. Wössner performance pistons (Germany)
    3. For the doors I used STP silver and for the roof STP gold insulation material. Easy to stick on, great stickiness, no hot air blower need.
    Teroson I used only for the floor, firewall and trunk because if you erase mud mats or carpet panel just for cleaning you will not have disturbing look of shiney insulation material.

    I wish success in restoring your GTE and as I said I will let you know the paint code in PM.

    Regards
    Martin
     
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    #245 christc, Oct 21, 2014
    Hi Martin,

    thanks a lot for the information. As parts suppliers differ not only in pricing but also in quality what were your experiences? can you recommend firms you worked with for GTE parts?

    Thanks + BR
    Christopher
     
  21. Martin M

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    #246 Martin M, Dec 29, 2014
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    Hello,

    A lot of time has gone along and things to do. But some time ago
    We submitted interest to have certificate from Ferrari Classiche. One day we received a inspector and inspection with the car lasted 2-3 hours. Next day he went away and after that I got a e-mail and there was signed up two things - not correct wheels and tires.

    So as he said we bought brand new five RW3690 (15x6) wheels from Borrani Route Milano and also Michelin 185 HR15 - XVS tires.

    Time went on and inspector e-mailed me again and asked me to take more pictures of specific points underneath from the car. At the moment no reply from him… I hope to hear him soon. As he said the process may take minimum 6+ months. Will see..
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    #249 Martin M, Dec 30, 2014
    I agree, the strangest thing was that Classiche inspector noticed the wider wheels immediately. So we told him the same story that late series GTE had 6.5” wide wheels. Probably same as 330 America model had. He called somewhere and said “you are correct”. When he reached under the hood, he recognized that we have reproduction carburetors.
    We were very sure that these were original carburetors. We were showing the serial nr and carburetor type and he made few phone calls again, got answers – “everything correct”. After that no more questions besides months later email, what I described previously.
     
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    #250 kare, Dec 31, 2014
    Facepalm. So they really haven't bothered to find out how these cars were originally built - or hire the people in the know. I wouldn't pay 5 pennies for the toilet paper they print out these days.

    Best wishes, Kare
     
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