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The Restoration Starts Here: 275GTB Shortnose 07333

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  1. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    #76 275GTB, Apr 6, 2011
    thanks, I knew i had read it some where!

    I love this, this really sums it all up "Never driven in the rain or snow, never crashed."

    It cracks me up laughing, the car spent its early life in Monte Carlo, it racked up 9000 miles in a few years back in the sixties, it was owned by a rich racing driver.
    What a complete load of bollox, it rains and snows (a lot) in Monte - just watch the rally every year you will see horrific weather conditions.

    I suppose a rich racing driver can be put down as one careful owner, never tracked.

    Wait to you see what else i have to reveal over the coming weeks. Never crashed ha ha!
     
  2. 275GTB

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    #77 275GTB, Apr 6, 2011
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    Nightmare No2 - the pain in the baulk-head..............
    a nice before picture, note the area around the battery tray on the left and the brake servo area on the right. In this picture and without too much inspection everything looks nice and solid.
    Both areas are very prone to corrosion due to leaking battery acid and brake fluid.

    before......
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  3. 275GTB

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    #79 335s, Apr 6, 2011
    the general outline and "straightness" of the body appears from the postings, to be pretty straight-stunningly straight....
    Which begs the question...why the "skim" coat of body putty...the car LOOKS STRAIGHT...
    is there a "crookedness" which cannot be seen in the posted pics?
     
  5. ferraripete

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    #80 ferraripete, Apr 6, 2011
    mark, your attitude is fantastic. this is an amazing thread made better ny your fun commentary! thank you and keep the expose coming!!

    can mike sheehan join the discussion defending his description of the car while under his brokerage? that would be fun to hear.

    pcb
     
  6. Enzos dad

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    #81 Enzos dad, Apr 6, 2011
    I hope the same shop didnt work on the motor!!!
     
  7. Apis Mellifera

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    #82 Apis Mellifera, Apr 6, 2011
    Mark,
    It's wonderful to see the progress on the car. I would never have guessed it was in such poor condition. I may have an interesting picture or two of the car if you're interested. I can't figure out how to PM you.
     
  8. FERRARI-TECH

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    #83 FERRARI-TECH, Apr 6, 2011


    A bunch of things here,

    First of i want a piece of that "play putty"

    You should auction it off !

    Yes all Ferrari's of that time have had nose damage and will have nose damage again.. very soft area.

    Sounds like you did your research before buying the car and knew what you would be getting into. Good for you. Bottom line is if the frame is straight and everything else is "there" and you knew you are going to do a "ground up" then the previous repairs don't really matter because you are going to fix it anyway.

    I would just love to meet the guy who could do the filler work like that ! He should be making sculptures !
     
  9. 275GTB

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    #84 275GTB, Apr 7, 2011
    Hi, yes, from 10 feet the car looks amazing, body appears very original and straight.
    As discussed on the previous page....there is no crookedness, just a love of plastic filler, ok more like an obsession!

    Previously: "The car is not twisted, the chassis is absolutely perfect and true – in fact best part of the car. I will post pictures of the chassis on the steel bed getting checked over in due course, once we have finished the nightmare chapters – oh yes there is plenty more to come!!!!"

    The "skim" coat of plastic was all over the car, or used to be, now its all gone. Fortunately it was only the nose area that was applied with a cement mixer and trowel, everywhere else was relatively thin, i.e. less than 2 inches thick.

    I am going to recycle all the plastic that was scrapped off and build a TVR, in fact i have enough plastic to resurrect this manufacturer and do a year long re-run of the Griffith!

    I now have a new theory - the short nose was prone to lifting at high speed, so they redesigned and developed the long nose. One of the previous owners, did not like this change of design - so he had a eureka moment: "Let me apply 80kg of crap to the nose cone, approximately the same weight as a small fat man sitting on the nose, this will stop lift at speed (also the extra weight will reduce top speed)" Brilliant he though and off he went with a sledge hammer to knock ten bells of **** out of the nose of his Ferrari.
    Mystery solved.
     
  10. 275GTB

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    #85 275GTB, Apr 7, 2011
    Hi, Welcome to the thread, and FerrariChat! Hope you are enjoying this adventure.
    I have sent you a PM with my email, would be great to hear any history, good or bad about my mistress with the plastic surgery obssesion.

    many thanks Mark
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    #86 VIZSLA, Apr 7, 2011
    Only you would call 2 inches "relatively thin"
    That you've kept a sense of humor and proportion speaks well of your sanity. :)
     
  12. Vintage V12

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    #87 Vintage V12, Apr 7, 2011
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  14. 275GTB

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    #89 275GTB, Apr 7, 2011
    Hi, thanks. when I bought the car, i spoke to the boys at Autosport Design. They were very helpful and sent me a copy of all the worksheets, invoices, costs, parts used etc, while the car was in their care.

    I think from memory, when I cross referenced the work sheets, "front end strip, sort and repaint" was referring to brakes, suspension, wishbones etc - but i may be wrong, I will check again when i get home.

    cheers
     
  15. Edward 96GTS

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    #90 Edward 96GTS, Apr 7, 2011
    THE AD SAYS "FABRICATE NEW HEADLIGHT COVERS AND SORT FITMENT OF HEADLIGHTS".
    SORRY FOR THE CAPS. sounds like there was an issue w/ the front end from the get-go.
     
  16. 275GTB

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    #91 275GTB, Apr 7, 2011
    fair assumption. But we know the nose was damaged, does it really matter when it was damaged? Let you in to a little secrect - it is nose longer on the car. but sssshhhh, yopu'll spoil my thread!

    the headlight covers were replaced ie the glass bits that cover the lamps and the lamps refitted and adjusted. I do remember this in the paper work. No idea what they were like, but can imagine if previously original they would be chipped and cracked over 40 years plus of use.
     
  17. Vintage V12

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    #92 Vintage V12, Apr 7, 2011
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    It's always nice to look back at a car's history but Mark is taking this car to another level. I am sure it's going to be fantastic. Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
    We love pictures!
     
  18. CarreraCaballo

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    #93 CarreraCaballo, Apr 7, 2011
    Very interesting restoration and documentation. Great job!
    Can't wait to see/read more :)

    Greetz,


    Joseph
     
  19. John Se

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    #94 John Se, Apr 8, 2011
    How would you build up filler that thick, many many applications with large plastering tools? You would need to buy 10-20 5 gallon buckets. But obviously done well.

    I recall seeing a factory fresh boxer in the 80's getting a repaint and the filler was 1/8 to 3/8 thick across the entire thing.
     
  20. Cozmic_Kid

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    #95 Cozmic_Kid, Apr 9, 2011
    At this rate there will be no body left :-/
     
  21. 275GTB

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    #96 275GTB, Apr 9, 2011
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    Nightmare No.3 - The Secret under the red paint!
    The Top corner of the left wing, screen pillar and roof.

    We can start the same way as the other nightmares, a nice picture of shinny paint and good lines......
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    #98 S Brake, Apr 9, 2011
    :eek::eek:
    It just keeps getting more juicy by the day.
     
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    #100 275GTB, Apr 9, 2011
    This is beginning to turn into a bit of a horror movie! once all the nightmares are revealed, and there a few more to go, we will get to the angle grinder chapters - stay tuned!

    cheers
    Mark
     
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