The Spanish Incident - Who was at fault? ***spoilers***

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Hey now... let's not be unkind to Muppets.

More seriously, I'd respect the opinion of most former F1 drivers who would care to comment, but I can't help but think he got this one wrong. I'd put it at least 60:40 upon Hamilton. Given the angle Rosberg's car was pointed at prior to him pulling alongside, Hamilton should have backed off before the grass became a necessary escape and race-ending mistake.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Personally, I'd put it closer to 80:20, but that's a valid opinion.

And totally agree he could/should have backed off.

"That's racin'.... "

Cheers,
Ian

 

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Hurdy Gurdy Gurdy mr Andrew!

 

Time to re-rate the vote.

Current votes as follows:-
Lewis - 130
Nico - 80
Both - 37
Danill - 12

As Daniil had nothing to do with the crash, his votes are eliminated, which leaves 130+80+37= 247 total votes.

As "both" are 50 /50, equal portion is weighted - 37÷2= 18.5

130+18.5= 148.5
80+18.5= 98.5

148.5÷247x100= 60.1%
98.5÷247x100= 39.9%

 

Currently there are only five / six Drivers that are really qualified enough to rate Lewis.

1) Michael Schumacher – 7 WDCs (Incapacitated)
2) Alain Prost – 4 WDCs
3) Sebastian Vettel – 4 WDCs
4) Sir Jackie Stewart – 3 WDCs
5) Niki Lauda – 3 WDCs
6) Nelson Piquet – 3 WDCs

Jacques does not make the grade.

 

Lol ouch!

 

Ayrton would have pulled him out the cockpit and sucker punched him for acting like a tool

 

If you don't think Ayrton would have made that move then I don't know what to say...he would've been the first to do it


And jackie Stewart is too outspoken you can literally hear the contempt for Lewis in his words - he can't handle Lewis is better than him so he makes up bull**** to bring him down


A car with its red light on slowing down anyone with a brain would go for the move

 

You're right. Senna would of blocked Lewis exactly like that and he probably would of punched Lewis after the crash

 

Anyone with half a brain would have rightly assumed that Rosberg would go to defend the position. Well before Hamilton got alongside, in fact, he was still well behind him (!), Rosberg already pointed his car towards the right hand side of the track.

All he had to do was jink left instead, and he would easily have passed him.

No one is debating that he went for the move. What's debated here is that he didn't use his racing instinct. Instead he thought Nico would roll over, but Nico defended rightfully (made his one move and closed the gap). Hamilton drove straight into the scene of an accident.

So much for that superior race brain of his, lol.

 

I was shouting '''track side boxing match, track side boxing match!!'' like a ****ing idiot when it happened.

Biggest disappointment of the weekend, really. That would really get my tickets worth. Mercs out, Verstappen win, Ferrari's on podium AND a boxing match? Couldn't get much better....lol

 

I'd also pay for that!

Cheers,
Ian

 

Quite so.

The Left Hand Side is the racing line, but Lewis' "Red Mist" moment made him focus on Nico instead, thinking Nico would move back onto the racing line.

100% Lewis' Fault.

And esteemed 3-time World Champions Sir Jackie Stewart and Niki Lauda know it is his fault.

 

And a McLaren BBQ for Alonso would have been the icing on the cake

 

I must say i dislike Stewart ,it hink he's a peacock with a stick stuck up his arse.....with this being said, he's streets ahead of Elton when it comes to driving skills!!

 

He did bbq his engine though didn't he?

 

I know that we are done with this argument, but (ok, we're not done!)

IF HAM makes the move stick and SOMEHOW miraculously gets all the way AROUND ROS, he'd then be going into Barcelona Turn 4 and HAVE to go WAY left to get back on the racing line and make the right hander.

SO, assuming ROS had left that gap for HAM, AND that HAM made the move, and HAM somehow got a car's length in front, I can't say what ROS would do, but I think we'd have contact going into 4 anyway.

 

Of course it was. I'm among the few here who revere JV but he's off his rocker on this one. The only thing Nico mucked was the Corbomite maneuver. Or did he ? .

 

Now Niki finally saying that it was both driver's fault ...maybe he won't shoot from the hip so fast next time until he has all the facts (e.g big speed differential).

 

or maybe he's been gagged....or maybe it's what he truly believes. Who knows! Maybe he didn't say anything this week.

 

''I blame him more than Nico'', is the latest I've read.

Thing is, even with the Sky autopsy, they go frame by frame and letter for letter to come to the conclusion that it was basically a racing incident, and their britishness trying to turn it into a way to have the German be at fault.

It's a racing situation, so things don't go frame by frame. Racers instinct is what Hamilton lacked at that very moment. Always anticipate where someone will likely be. Hamilton didn't do that and somehow thought that the door would be left open. Rosberg trait of the past. He wouldn't have done this with anyone else (or definitely shouldn't).

 

Lauda had it right. Rate of closure for LH doomed him and all on the first lap. Amateur move by LH. He controlled the closure not Nico. Lauda probably moderating for the team's sake. Political and nothing more.

 

So unless you have more WDCs than the guy you're analysing, your opinion is unqualified?

As a scientist, I disagree with using that as an accepted principal of analysis validation. Now, would you like to ask about my science degrees to see which one of us is correct?

All the best,
Andrew.