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  1. Angus81

    Angus81 Karting

    Oct 15, 2011
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    Angus Young
    Hi eveybody,
    After a tought job, my website is finally finished.
    You will find all the cars imported in France by Jean Thépenier and John Simone from 3500 GT to the Biturbo production (the son of Jean Thépenier, Jean-loup tried to continue the aventure for a while until the late 80's).
    I would be very happy to receive photos of cars that immigrate to the States to illustrate my site.
    it is only the beginning, so it needs to be updated, some informations are missing but I am working on it with Fabio Collina.
    Best Regards
    Angus

    The name of the site is : THEPENIER-MASERATI-REGISTER

    http://www.bruchservices.fr/doniot/index.html
     
  2. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Mar 4, 2005
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    Fred,
    fantastic! A very helpful source!
     
  3. Countachqv

    Countachqv Formula 3

    Apr 25, 2007
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    #4 Countachqv, Apr 9, 2012
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    it would be great to know how you got that done! that is great. I will may find the Merak I bought fom them 2nd hand in 1982

    Edit: just checked it. I will research my old vin. Was a 77 Merak SS that was sold to a doctor as a Xmas gift to a .. nice lady who did favors.... Seems like there are 32 candidate in that list at 1st glance.
    do you have the same data on Lambos? That would be awsome!

    Outstanding work there!
     
  4. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Mar 4, 2005
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    Interesting info about the Mistral #109.058.

    According to your records the car was delivered new to THEPENIER -St.Cloud, France and sold to 1st owner Prince Agha Khan on 1. July 1964.

    Seems that there is a 2nd car with that VIN existing:

    This 2nd #109.058 was sold in Dec. 1964 to its 1st owner from Varese, Italy and was later owned by Corrado Augusta CEO of MV AUGUSTA.
    This car was located in 2001 in the UK, owned by Mr. S.K.
     
  5. Merak1974

    Merak1974 Formula 3

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    A simply amazing wealth of information on your site. And easy to use as well.

    Excellent work!
     
  6. Merak1974

    Merak1974 Formula 3

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    I noticed that there was one 3500 GT Coupe by Vignale on the list.

    I don't think I have ever seen a photo of such a car. Anyone? Thanks.

    Gabriel
     
  7. Angus81

    Angus81 Karting

    Oct 15, 2011
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    3500 GT Coupe Vignale = #101.1335 = Sebring Prototype

    About the # 109.058, another Maserati mystery ???
    Aga Khan 's model has electric windows.
     
  8. Merak1974

    Merak1974 Formula 3

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    Yes, of course :)

    Various pictures of that car on this forum.

    Thank you.
     
  9. wbaeumer

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    #10 wbaeumer, Apr 9, 2012
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    Sebring #101.1335, now owned by a collector in the USA.

    ©: ph.: Walter Bäumer, 2012
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  10. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    #11 P300V8, Apr 9, 2012
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    Hi Angus,

    I wonder if you have any access to the records for Lamborghinis imported by Thepenier.

    I am the owner of 40006 the first production Silhouette, specially trimmed for the 1976 Paris show and delivered to Thepenier on 01.10.76. The car could not be registered due to lack of type approval, was sold to a Regis Bothorel (date unknown) and was finally registered on 23.07.80. Unsurprisingly it was the only Silhouette sold in France!

    Any information you might have would be much appreciated.
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  11. Angus81

    Angus81 Karting

    Oct 15, 2011
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    Original colour : Rosso
    Interior : Senape
    Price : 82280 F
    Date of Invoice by Lamborghini : 27/09/1976
    Telaio e Motore N° 40006

    The lamborghini chapter is next one but not my priority for the moment
    My archives are not as complete as Maser.
    Angus
     
  12. wilde

    wilde Formula Junior

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    #13 wilde, Apr 10, 2012
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  13. wilde

    wilde Formula Junior

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  14. wilde

    wilde Formula Junior

    Jan 12, 2009
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    Je vous avais contacté il y a quelques temps à propos de l'histoire de AM112*314. J'envisage toujours d'acquérir ces documents, néanmoins, ce n'est pas la priorité pour le moment. Je suis en train de remettre l'auto en état mécaniquement. Le problème est toujours de savoir si il est raisonnable de restaurer une Mexico eu égard à sa cote sur le marché ! En tout cas, féliciations pour votre site. Avez vous des images d'époque du garage Thépenier ?
     
  15. P300V8

    P300V8 Formula 3

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    Many thanks. In fact 40006 still has the original Nero interior as per Pasini's published list.
     
  16. Nembo1777

    Nembo1777 F1 World Champ

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    Hello all:

    I concur with all the positive things said so far:

    Frederic "Angus 81" has an amazing archive of Thepenier documents part of which I had to pleasure to review in person some weeks ago and some of which will be reproduced in my book: if you own a car sold by the late good guy Jean Thepenier then you should really go ahead and get your file.

    Monsieur Wilde:

    Bienvenue meme si vous devriez faire l'effort d'ecrire en Anglais dans cet ENGLISH LANGUAGE forum c'est facile de nos jours.

    Je vous conseille d'acheter les documents: pourquoi hesiter? Permettez moi de dire qu'hesiter c'est pour les faibles et les capitaines de pedalo:) et de bien poursuivre la restauration de votre Mexico: basez vous sur la passion, la satisfaction est là!

    Vous souhaitant bonne chance!

    Merci de me repondre EN ANGLAIS par respect pour les autres lecteurs: vous pouvez aller sur Google traduction, ce n'est pas trés bon mais ça suffit:

    http://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr&tab=wT

    best regards,

    Marc Sonnery
     
  17. Angus81

    Angus81 Karting

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    Good to know that, these docs will be collector's items in 10 years time so no need to rush, restore your car first, see you in 2022....
     
  18. wilde

    wilde Formula Junior

    Jan 12, 2009
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    Hi,
    no problem for writing in english, it was just an aside for Angus81. I hope that my car will be back on the road soon but don't worry not in 2022!
     
  19. cwcmaser

    cwcmaser Karting

    Nov 8, 2010
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    Hello Walter:
    1. I own Mistral Coupe AM 109 056 (3700) - 1964 title - delivered 15 July 1964 to Dr. Mari Morosini (?) in Rome - only one car away from the AM 109 058 you are referring to.
    2. I note that AM 109 058 - 1965 title -was delivered new to an owner in Varese. I have another Mistral Coupe AM 109 196 that was owned by a gentleman that also lived in Varese Mr. Attilio Baldioli (he owned a bus company in Milan that was the official purchaser S.A.S Milanese Casermaggie di Porta & C). He sold it in 1972 to a Canadian who lived in Varese and he eventually brought the Mistral here to Vancouver in 1977 or thereabouts - I bought the car from him last year - so three documented owners back to it's origins.
    Cheers,
    Colin
     
  20. wbaeumer

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    Colin,
    thanks for your infos. Not sure but I have a Luke Halogh from Sedro Wooley.WA./USA, who had the #109.196 in 1987. Is that correct?
     
  21. Merak1974

    Merak1974 Formula 3

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    I was surprised to see that the Bora outsold the Merak by quite a margin (47 vs. 34) in France. Since three times as many Meraks were made in total, this seems a bit strange. Perhaps the French preferred the other cars with a C-114 engine - the SM and the Ligier - and/or perhaps Meraks were also imported by Citroën and sold through their distributors?

    In other words: Was Thepenier the exclusive importer in France, or were there other channels as well?

    Best,
    Gabriel
     
  22. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Thepenier was the exclusiv importer for France.In total they sold no less than 684 cars also to the UK and to Sweden.

    After Citroen took over Maserati the successfull relationship with Maserati came to an end - so not many Meraks were sold by them in France.
    Thepenier then sold Lamborghini and Jensen in France. They got a new name (SAMAF) and they finished their operation s in the late (?) 80s.
     
  23. Angus81

    Angus81 Karting

    Oct 15, 2011
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    Gabriel
    Take the Time to read the Maserati letter first page of my site, that tells you about Thepenier in France.
    The Merak was too "Citroënised" for the Maserati aficionados and too "italianised" for a Citroën Addict.
    At the time The Merak had a very bad reputation, because of engine problems.
    French automotiv press was quite tough with the "little Bora"
     

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