Even though i feel sorry for all invovled, what are these kids thinking?? Kids reading and adults too, stay safe on the roads and dont be stupid.... Id hate to come on here one day and read something like this..... Cant believe a 15year old pregnant girl died because of this.... Read more: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1258&storyid=2278471 Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
how is your first car a skyline. Its really sad but this kinda stuff happens everyday and as long as there are cars to be driven, there will be accidents. And thats not right. Im just trying my best not to become a statistic.
Arnt we all?? Basically my concern is one thing. This kid took his life by taking his fathers car out at night and hooning around in it while he was out of the country. Many of us on here have very powerful cars. And teenage sons to that extent. So basically, lock you car up good. Im not saying that your kids would go out and do it, but just keep these thoughts in the back of your head. It takes events like this to wake us up to the reality that is....
Speak the truth. I was talking about myself being the statistic and i dont have kids (that i know about ). However, i wont let my son take the Ferrari out unless ive seen him drive it responsibly, then he would have to really suck up to me for me to give him the keys
I dont think it should be a matter at being able to "suck up" to get the keys off you. I think the decision should be yours and you should only really allow your son to drive the car when he shows a sense of maturity and respect to the opportunity. Mautrity and respect to other people. Maturity and respect to the car.
Yeah! Aint that the truth! Besides, ive got a device that i like to call a "wife" that would put a stop to that before it would even be mentioned.....
Owned. A shame, but what are you gonna do? The kid's got no brains. Natural selection at work. Harsh? Maybe.
While the picture makes me nauseated, I also feel the same way you do Z0RR0 in regards to natural selection. It is just too sad. =/
Very sad story no doubt. More info about it here: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56637
Wow, Mike that is one messed up Nissan. Where did it happen. Sorry to hear about the innocent passengers. I was lucky when I was 18 to walk away from a 100mph rollover. Was on my own, speeding on a country road lost it on a bend, car was writen off, I walked away.
I pushed my car pretty hard as a teenager. I think the reason I'm still around today is because whenever I got to the point where I wasn't sure either the car or myself could handle what I was going to do, I just didn't do it. Some kids know their limits, others find them out the hard way, and some only get one chance.
I know exactly what you are talking about. By giving yourself that safety barrier between uncertainty and when the car truly would get out of control, misjudgements do not have the same profound effect.
I have friends who drive like idiots. Dangerous idiots. I got one ride with them, thought they drove like numbnuts, and never ever again rode in a car with them. If any of them showed up in a sportscar, I'd decline the ride, even more than when they are driving their trucks. Yes, that may mean walking. Not that long ago, one of them said "*uck yeah, I'm getting a crotch rocket, a GSXR 1000, that thing owns" ... I sent him some funeral flowers the following week saying "these will be useful very soon". He surprisingly got the message. And anyways, when you're 8 months pregnant, you don't go for a joy ride in a sports car. You should be careful ... C.Losito nailed it. One can reasonably push a car ... hardest thing is to know what "reasonable" is.
it's an aussie standard in many suburbs. over here Fubu is synonymous with maternity wear. (i wish i was joking )
Ash. This happened on the Central Coast! Leave the city outta it! After all the talk about how young guys should stop speeding in fast cars yesterday. Some young kid split his WRX in half last night.....
Wise words Mike, wise words and that is exactly what I will be doing with my kids. I have this situation coming up real soon (with my oldest step son, and he is in a real hurry to have mobility), and I am concerned. I am trying to keep discussions up on this so he hopefully will realise I am not trying to be a tool ... and that I am really trying to make him understand that obtaining your license does NOT mean you know how to keep yourself and others alive on the road, it just means you passed a simple test. I will not be allowing him to take his younger siblings in his car (that I will happily purchase on a pay me back over time with no interest scheme, like my parents did) unless either my wife or myself are in the car. Lets face it we all have or need to have that first accident/experience before we graduate from simply controlling the car to being able to read the road. I did, and this is why the authorities over here are trying to limit passengers for young and new drivers. I fully agree with this, and I am not going to sit by and risk my whole family being involved in his (or any relative/friends) first accident. When I look back at my early driving days, that is exactly what my parents did ... without me really knowing. This was because I could not afford a car and most of my early driving was family stuff with Dad sitting beside me in the family car. Sounds dull but it taught me heaps ... and remember my Dad was Northland hill climb champion for many years in New Zealand , so many times it was get on with it son! Nowadays there is too much pressure in getting that first car, and parents (thinking reliability) are stupidly helping kids into brand new modern cars. They are too fast. Better to start them off in a bit of a banger. Teaches them better understanding of car mechanics and if they nudge something, costs are less. Also because the car dynamics are old/slow, when they push the boundary they are going slower ... Pete
Pete... You have brought up some good points, and there should be more people liek you out there in power. It could change alot of wrong things. But i slightly diagree with you on one thing. Should learning drivers be put into old bangers like you said? Well, while driving those cars would make them understand the dynamics of driving, it may also allow them to reach the limit while going slower. I agree with that. But what i dont agree is with the safety of the old bangers. These cars are not equiped with airbags, ABS, TC etc.... While it may slow them down, ultimatly, if they ram into the back of a van in front of them, they could be seriously hurt. I want my son in an old car. But i also want him in a safe car too. Balancing the scales on those two things are tricky. And this is where we strike the problem. I would love my son in an old banger, learning the mechanics of how it runs, and being able to appreciate the wonderful concept that is a car. But i would rather him in something like a new corrola and Mazda. Behind the safety of twin airbags and ABS. Not too much power but the limit would be higher in that car. So what do we do? The only one true answer to elimate 99% of the road toll is to have a huge metal spike mounted off the sterring wheel. Bout' 2 inches away from your heart. That would stop most crashes......
I can agree with what everyone is saying. I'm 19 years old, and i know the limits of my car. I have done plenty of stupid things before and had my own share of close calls (none at super high speeds, I drive a civic.) I've posted before regarding these situations and it really is too easy to get your license. Driving around a block and parallel parking which in my town isn't necessary doesn't prove anything! There really should be a full road course, where you need to prove you can bring the car up to high speeds, 55/65 and handle the car in an emergency situation such as lane changes, breaking, etc. I would not get in the car with about 80% of the people I graduated with. I also come from a town with money, so it isn't uncommon to see a new driver with a newer BMW, Lexus, etc. I am fortunate in that both my parents are excellent drivers and taught me very well so I knew what I was getting into before i even received my license. Like i said I have done plenty of stupid things which should have been done in a closed environment but I am better for it and know the limits of what my car can and cannot handle. I believe its much harder to get your license in Germany, the way it should be here. I don't disagree with the age of receiving it but there should be a lot more to the test. I think most parents would rather have to drive their 18 year old child to the store than make funeral plans b/c they had fun while going to the store. I got my first ticket over the summer for doing 68 in a 45 mph zone, which there is no excuse but there was noone on the road (highway) and I was not driving like a maniac just a little fast. My parents took it pretty well b/c everyone gets a ticket sooner or later just as they did, and now I am too scared to attempt anything stupid on the roads. This kid should not have had such a powerful car, he obviously didn't know what he was doing. I have a friend w/ an extremely powerful car but he has proven to everyone that he is worthy of it and responsible enough to have it. Just my .02 cents.
Ferrari 0324... Thanks for your input. Seeing how it is over in the states indicates that this problem is widespread in many countries. I there could be one more crash in the world, please let it be the lamarossa! Without the driver of course! Basically i can some this up in one sentence, if i can do that.... Driving a car on the roads is not a RIGHT, its a PRIVILEGE
15yr old girl knocked up with a 33yr old bf... She had it coming if she was that dumb... That sounds like the girls around here. Stupid knocked up sluts.
