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  1. jinferno

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    #1 jinferno, Jan 20, 2010
    On saturday, I decide to take Bella (2007 F430 F1 with 6400 miles) out for a little shopping trip. She had been on the battery trickler for 2.5 weeks and it was 60 degrees outside. Let her get all nice and warmed up first, then drove about 50 miles to Nordys. No problems. Had been having some ' skipping' of the clutch when going from 2-3 gear for the past 2 months or so. None of that today. Took her up to 100mph a few times in 6th, nothing crazy.
    About 15 miles from home, I had been in 5th and wanted to cruise in 6th. Clicked the F1, and nothing happened. WTF. Turned down the music ( was listening to Lenny Kravitz " are you gonna go my way") and tried again. Nothing. OK, not good. Look around and realize that Im not in the best part of town and I'M RUNNING OUT OF GAS. Ferrari dealer is about 10 minutes away. Car seems to like 5th gear. What do I do? Stop and calll roadside assist, or 'Damn the torpedos, FULL STEAM AHEAD!'. Well, being a blackjack player, I hit the soft 17 and went for the dealership. Got to the exit, had to stop at the light. Car downshifted itself not well. Very jerky.
    Now in 1st and when I tried to shift to 2nd, the car slowed down at first, and jumped in to second violently and lurched forward. Lots of traffic around me, I'm keeping calm ( well, I did need to change my undies later, but I digress). Car makes it to the dealership at 430pm ( Foriegn Cars Italia).
    Get the call Tuesday from them and they say the clutch looks fine and the actuator screws were loose and they think its an easy fix. Keep in mind that my warranty ends in 2 weeks and I at first wasn't going to drive the car, but, said what the hell.
    Well, get another call today and they say ' we have no idea whats wrong! the screws have been tightened and the car is still having trouble shifting'. Worse, the computer isn't showing any fault codes and we have never seen this before. They sent the data to ferrari and they are waiting for a response! Hmmmm...OK...
    Has anyone else dealt with a similar issue?

    J
     
  2. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #2 Rifledriver, Jan 20, 2010
    Maybe. Keep me informed. I consulted with an attorney today who is handling a very similar case that is coming to a head.

    Who knows? Might become a twofer.
     
  3. forgeahead

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    #3 forgeahead, Jan 20, 2010
    One word: warranty!!!
    You are one lucky mofo that it happened now. You must do very well playing blackjack!
    Did you use winnings to purchase the 430?
     
  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #4 Rifledriver, Jan 20, 2010
    So is the car I speak of. 56 days in the shop, almost everything replaced, some more than once. Direct factory involvement in the repairs and it is no closer to being fixed now than at the beginning.


    Two words "Lemon Law".
     
  5. Bullfighter

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    #5 Bullfighter, Jan 20, 2010
    What he said. Bad news, but at least Ferrari is on the hook.
     
  6. TheMayor

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    #6 TheMayor, Jan 20, 2010
    My Maserati did something very similar. They replaced the F1 pump and it never happened again.

    I'm sure they'll figure it out. You're lucky it happened now and not 2 weeks from now.
     
  7. rustybits

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    #7 rustybits, Jan 21, 2010
    Wow. Interested in hearing how that goes......
     
  8. kopiokosong

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    #8 kopiokosong, Jan 21, 2010
    sounds like something similar to what i experienced when my f1 gear selection sensor failed. i also had to replace my f1pump too.
     
  9. Street&Track

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    #9 Street&Track, Jan 21, 2010
    Exact same thing happened to me. They said the screws were loose. But after less than 1000 miles it came back. Of course by the time it came back it was out of warranty. I have to replace the actuator pump at about $4K so make sure you get it really fixed under warranty. If I remember right if this doesn't fix it the next thing that gets replaced is the actuator itself another 5 grand. Stay on it and good luck. Oh, I have a 430 with 6700 miles on it.
     
  10. Hawkeye

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    #10 Hawkeye, Jan 21, 2010
    Does Getrag manufacture the F1 gearboxes as well?
     
  11. Innovativethinker

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    #11 Innovativethinker, Jan 21, 2010
    Thanks for posting, good thing to inquire about when shopping for a 430 perhaps?
     
  12. jinferno

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    #12 jinferno, Jan 21, 2010
    Thanks to all for the comments. Still nothing from FCI service about what the plan is. Another question, lets say they come up with a fix, car works for a while, then same problems happens again this time after the warranty has expired?
    This board continues to be a wealth of information!

    J
     
  13. dm_n_stuff

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    #13 dm_n_stuff, Jan 21, 2010
    Buy the extended Ferrari powertrain warranty?

    Not sure of the details, but doesn't Ferrari offer an extended warranty??

    DM
     
  14. Vegas-Guy

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    #14 Vegas-Guy, Jan 21, 2010
    Go with a 6spd..:D
     
  15. big_guy

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    #15 big_guy, Jan 21, 2010
    You can bet your bottom dollar that if you experience a failure after your warranty expires, your deallership will initially at least tell you that the failure was caused by a related but different part, hence you are responsbile for the repair.

    The final resolution will ultimately depend on the relationship you have with the dealership. If you are a long time customer, and especially if they see you being a future buyer of another car, they may give you a break.

    My 2 cents.
     
  16. Schumi76

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    #16 Schumi76, Jan 21, 2010
    YES.
     
  17. kopiokosong

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    #17 kopiokosong, Jan 22, 2010
    as a lawyer id advise u to get express preferably written confirmation from fci that the warranty is extended in respect of the items fixed for say a year? alternatively u may want to buy the powercube extended warranty now if possible- seems like a good idea if the risk of recurrence is high
     
  18. Derek Trotter

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    #18 Derek Trotter, Jan 22, 2010
    I believed it was a company called Graziano.
     
  19. tech4ferrari

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    #19 tech4ferrari, Jan 22, 2010
    FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, I AM CASEY JOHNSON AT FOREIGN CARS ITALIA, I AM THE TECHNICIAN CURRENTLY WORKING ON YOUR CAR, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE MET ONE TIME BEFORE. I WANT YOU TO REST EASY KNOWING THAT I AM WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE FACTORY ON THIS MATTER AND I PROMISE, IT WILL GET RESOLVED. I JUST RECIEVED WORD FROM THE ENGINEER AT FNA THAT HE WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO SEND HIM SOME MORE PARAMETERS FROM THE TRANSMISSION WHILE DRIVING, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THE WARRANTY PROCESS TAKES TIME AND WE WANT YOUR CAR FIXED RIGHT THE FIRST TIME... SO I AM COVERING ALL OF MY BASES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY OR STOP BY AND I CAN EXPLAIN THE DIAGNOSIS PROCESS UP TO THIS POINT.
    THANKS, CASEY
     
  20. marknkidz

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    #20 marknkidz, Jan 22, 2010
    Sounds like your in good hands!!!
     
  21. jinferno

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    #21 jinferno, Jan 22, 2010
    Thanks Casey for the reply. I have dealt with the FCI Ferrari service dept. in the past and have always been given excellent service from everyone ( this also includes the Porsche section of FCI as well). I know that they want to fix my car right the first time and get it back to me as soon as possible. Also, when I dropped my car off on Saturday, a FCI sales person gave me a ride home eventhough I didn't buy my car at FCI and the service dept. was closed. I have no worries that the current issue will be resolved. I just miss looking at my baby in the garage ( separation anxiety I guess).

    J
     
  22. BLAMPEE

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    #22 BLAMPEE, Jan 22, 2010
    He DOES have a 6spd.....a 6spdF1. ;)

    LoL

    PS...with the 458 you won't be able to have this option!
     
  23. forgeahead

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    #23 forgeahead, Jan 22, 2010
    Wow. Nice.
    Get the extended warranty! That is a good gamble!!!
     
  24. Scott98

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    #24 Scott98, Jan 28, 2010
    Any updates?
     
  25. jinferno

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    #25 jinferno, Jan 28, 2010
    Well, first I want to thank FCI for all of their help with my situation. Long story short, FNA is NOT going to repair my car under warranty! They claim that excessive clutch heat is what caused my problem and that its not a warranty issue (2007 f430, f1, 6500mi). I bought the car used and the previous owner lived in NYC. So, its going to cost me about $6000 for a new clutch and throw out bearing. My warranty ends on 2/1 and I can purchase another year for $6700 ( yeah right, screw me once..you get the idea).

    I'm still quite pissed and I do not blamed FCI. BTW, I haven't tracked the car or driven it like an idiot.

    Any info from folks on how a clutch overheats and best ways to prevent it!

    Thanks

    J
     
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