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this guy is stealing my sold inventory ads and listing them for sale!!!

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  1. Challenge64

    Challenge64 F1 Veteran
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    You own the copyright to those photos. As far as I see, his use of them do not fall under "Fair Use" as he is using the images for profit. See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use.

    You can demand he remove the photos and it is illegal for him to use them.

    Also see - http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html

    In the future, you can put a watermark copyright symbol © on your pictures.
     
  2. DrStranglove

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    Any updates?
     
  3. GatorFL

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    I see the Bullet Motorsports logo 3 of the pictures in the Hunting Ridge Motors ad. I don't see the same pictures on your site however. Maybe the new owner sent them to Hunting Ridge so he could post the car?

    Regarding your website those are some lofty claims you make about your resume. As my wife is an executive at JM Family I'll have to ask her if what you have written is true.
     
  4. Perkman87

    Perkman87 Formula Junior

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    #29 Perkman87, Feb 9, 2011
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    Go For It. I worked there while attending Northwood University, you should ask her if she knows John Hoctor as he was my Boss. the sales force was AAX and I created a database for over 1500 dealerships during my time there, btw they shut down JM Solutions . Would you like any more information?

    Sales operations was my Title btw, the person that set up my bio put my tasks as my position.

    Also those pictures you speak of are the sister car, these were taken down as this car went to Italy and I obviously could not market it while it was gone. I do not know what all of the attacking is for but go ahead I am the most honest person you can meet. :) Also the new owner just posted this exact car as just arriving, so your accusations are ridiculous. look in the challenge thread!


    Here you go The deleted thread of my original Pictures of the sold Vehicle.

    I will have to take this down in 24 hours though as it is sold

    http://www.bulletmotorsport.net/2008-ferrari-f430-challenge.html
     
  5. Perkman87

    Perkman87 Formula Junior

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    Last I heard the Previous owner was going to call, I was told to stay out of it until then.
     
  6. Perkman87

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    #31 Perkman87, Feb 9, 2011
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    Okay let me clarify,

    There were two cars listed for sale by Bullet Motorsports for the previous owner,both identical One was sold and the other was not sold. The listing was ended for the unsold and the vehicle was not put back up for sale.(as it was sent to Italy, and I do know of it is back yet)

    The actual pictures he is using are of the sold vehicle, yet when you call him he states he has the sister car for sale.(how can he have either car for sale is my question? and how can he use my photos?)

    Essentially he does not have permission to sell the car, and is using Bullets photos.




    I hope This clarifies everything. ?
     
  7. Perkman87

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    Thank you !
     
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  9. Perkman87

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    #34 Perkman87, Feb 10, 2011
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    I never updated that web page as it was taken down. and not normally visible. I just brought it back to life to show that the same pictures were used.. and yes it is sold lol

    I fixed it for you :)
     
  10. DrStranglove

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    Bro, no it does not.

    You need to tell us the CURRENT OWNER has not given them permission to list their car.

    I could sell you my Ferrari but that gives me no right to say anything even if you dump gas on it and throw in your zippo.

    Otherwise, and I am very sorry to say, you dont have a leg to stand on other then they took your photos.
     
  11. Perkman87

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    you do realize this is the current owner:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310925

    and Its obviously not for sale anymore.
     
  12. DrStranglove

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    How do you know? Have you asked StreetKing? Seriously my brother, and I am not trying to come down on you, but you have been very specific in that you are only speaking for the previous owner.

    Why not let street king say something? Or at least ask him.
     
  13. Perkman87

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    This is getting way to out of hand. and I think a mod should just shut this topic down.

    Its sold.... you guys know....... Case Closed.

    He stole my Pictures/ Listed it without Permission.....Case closed



    Back to my Chamomile tea
     
  14. Perkman87

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    #39 Perkman87, Feb 10, 2011
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    I only can speak for the previous owner as that's whom I had a contract with, I do not want to bother Streetking (as he Bought the Car From Us). Obviously the 430 is not for sale.
     
  15. DrStranglove

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    WHAT??!!?

    But that does not make sense. At the least.... this ass offering the car is committing fraud against SK. And that is a worse offense than stealing your photos.



    Jon, I believe you are a good and honorable man. So let me make this very clear....

    If you EVER see anything of mine being offered for sale and you think it is crap..... CALL ME QUICK!!!!

    Thanks!
     
  16. amenasce

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    Someone who knows streetking (he seems to be friendly enough), PM him this thread. Im sure he will want to email the guy himself.
     
  17. GatorFL

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    No attacking, just trying to get to the bottom of things.

    Here is what your site says:

    From 2007 to 2008, Mr. Perque served as Sales Director/Advisor of JM Family Enterprises, where he directed sales, inventory, and cost control for multiple automotive distributors. In 2008 he created the largest automotive sales force database for a top 100 Forbes based company.

    So you are admitting that your position was Sales Operations and not Sales Director/Advisor as listed on your website? You created a database or worked on it?

    The point I am trying to make is that I personally don't see a difference between what your website says about your CV and what Hunting Ridge Motors did by using your picture. For all you know the current owner told Hunting Ridge to use it. Regarding the car it would seem only the current owner would know if he is selling it. As others have suggested maybe you need to reach out to that person and find out if the other dealer is indeed selling it. People flip cars all the time.
     
  18. Perkman87

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    As stated above My Title was Sales Operations and I built it up to where it stood when I left. Hours upon Hours of Data Entry in order to have the perfect Database.

    I directed and advised the dealers on how to run the dealership database for inventory, as stated above the person that put together the Bio simply used my key words in my description. No lying going on here.

    Also please take a look at what was stated in the previous pages about where the sold car is at the moment. (Street King is obviously not selling it, and its obviously not wrapped like in my stolen photos)

    Please stop bashing this thread you are acting like a Troll. I have been 100 Percent Honest the whole time. Stop sending me PMs, as they are a nuisance.

    I'm happy you bought a car from him previously without hassle, and I'm happy you read and looked at my site.

    You should look at my 5 other sites as well.

    You realize you are trying to provoke a new business owner and recent college graduate right? Why would I ever lie or make something up this early in my developing stages and put a sour name to my reputation and flawless track record.

    Have a good day.


    MODS you Can Lock it up.
     
  19. GatorFL

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    I never said I bought a car from Mark Starr but I did look at one he had and the process and the car were as represented.

    I'm not a troll but I am a Mod. In my opinion this whole thread is a thinly disguised attempt at promoting your business. We have a standing order from the admin to monitor non-sponsor dealers and that is what attracted me to this thread.

    Again, not trying to provoke you. I think it is great that you are a young guy starting a business. You obviously have a good head on your shoulders and have successfully sold some good cars. That is awesome. I'm shopping right now for a 550. See what you can do.
     
  20. DrStranglove

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    I would not lock it till we hear from StreetKing. That answers it all. Thus, I PM'ed him myself since it seems no one else would.
     
  21. Challenge64

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    As a photographer myself, it irks me that this guy took your photos and posted them on the internet without your permission.

    I read up on Fair Use and he cannot claim that. He stole your pictures and used them to try to profit. Because you actually put your logo on the picture helps you a lot...and from what I have read (check for yourself) entitles you to far more $$$ from this guy. There is no excuse for him to continue to use them.
     
  22. Perkman87

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    I understand, I'm not looking for money, I just want him to take them off.
     
  23. 430man

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    lemme join the chorus here... I don't care if it is Streetking's brother and he really is selling the car.

    The photos are property of the OP. As he put it... Case Closed.

    In the mean time I find it bizarre that this car that was only purchased 2 weeks ago is apparently for sale and the new owner has not said a word.
     
  24. mark starr

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    #49 mark starr, Feb 10, 2011
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    Thanks to all who supported me here. The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. Hunting Ridge Motors Inc is still in business and doing very well thank you. No longer in Greenwich and no longer a Lotus dealer.

    I have been the victim of stolen photos myself many times and know the frustration. These photos were supplied to me by Francisco who was the owner of two 430 Challenge cars. He asked me to market the cars for him. Although the posts are several months old, I have not heard from the owner to tell me the cars were sold and to take them down. I did hear from several people all of a sudden who were calling to find out some information about the car. I also heard from someone in Florida who was nasty on the phone and was also threatening. Not the best way to deal with me or anyone for that matter. I simply asked him to have Francisco call me and to tell me to take them down. Have not heard from him but the car is down anyway.

    End of story..........Be well and have fun out there. Please send some sunshine to the Northeast, it's been a LONG winter and we could all use it...........Mark Starr
     
  25. mark starr

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    #50 mark starr, Feb 10, 2011
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    The owner of the business needs some experience on how to deal with people. Perhaps this might provide teething for him. Not my problem........Thanks for having a levelheaded approach to this situation............Mark Starr
     

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