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This is the reason why Ferrari made the FF

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  1. Whoopsy

    Whoopsy Formula Junior

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    #1 Whoopsy, Dec 17, 2015
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  2. Modificata

    Modificata F1 Rookie

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    That last comment just sums up so much for me. I'm at crossroad at the moment and thinking about either an FF or a Mercedes G63 AMG. Although both seem like very different cars my criteria is a 4 wheel drive, usable with the family, suitable for daily use including shopping. G would be more practical. FF would be a far better drive.

    My brain says G. My heart says FF.
     
  3. Whoopsy

    Whoopsy Formula Junior

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    I have a G63, but the thought of taking it for the trip didn't cross my mind at all.
     
  4. uhn2000

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    Sigh.. our FFs :) Just need to add a companion :)
     
  5. Brian L

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    Why would the G be better?

    Life is short ... drive a FF all you can, you'll never regret it.
     
  6. FFantastic

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    Life has to be just one long adventure and when you are adventured out just get off.
    FF............adventure in every trip.......G63.........transport
     
  7. Brian L

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    100%
     
  8. Lukeylikey

    Lukeylikey F1 Rookie
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    In something of a surprise to me, the FF is a car that reminds me of what I love about cars. When driving mine I am never thinking "wish it was as fast as an F12". I think it is better to love cars for their own brilliance and personality, not because one is faster than another.

    It has that wonderful Ferrari V12 (is there a more emotive engine on the planet?), a beautifully balanced chassis, interesting technology, a luxury interior and 'go anywhere' ability. It is a great car, especially in the winter - allowing four passengers to be transported in the Ferrari way thorough scenes like those posted above is quite unique.

    Perhaps I will use it less in the summer but when autumn comes around, the thought of putting the Speciale away will be a lot less painful!
     
  9. Brian L

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    True.

    And does anyone really need F12 speed around town? 3.5 to 60 mph and the pull to 150 is plenty.
     
  10. F12KID

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    one could say same re the FF - or any other F-car per se....not the point at all...
     
  11. RickLederman

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  12. Noblesse Oblige

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    I have doubts that a 458 can be made to do well against an FF in this kind of run. The FF has taller gearing in the important gears over 100 mph that gives the FF long legs in this run.
     
  13. berkeley

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    Hahaha Brian, with that rationale, does anyone really need base Boxster speed around town?

    Happy Holidays.
     
  14. FFantastic

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    I must have missed something here, my apologies but I thought Ferrari ownership and the related performance had absolutely bugger all to do with need.
     
  15. LV Eric

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    yes i need that bad!!!! had to pull past 150 tho,the Enzo gave up at 177 was disappointing.


    on a serious note, I had no idea the FF could do what it does until I came back to FC and started reading about it. Pretty amazing stuff. As I said before I don't drive enough and NEVER in snow so for me it's not a plan. However i'm a believer now after seeing so many threads. Great stuff guys!
     
  16. Whoopsy

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    That would be the F12 :)
     
  17. Brian L

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    That's ironic, 177 is my top speed with the FF so far. So much pull ... great great car. I now have a 911 GTS cab for the canyon roads and track. Super happy with the pair.
     
  18. Entropy

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    just piling on - we are on FF #2, our first we were early adopters (had we think was the very first 2013MY in North America). Plenty of miles on them (not as much as some others...).

    FF is simply an astonishing car.

    However, while it's "good" in snow, it is really superb in wet conditions (plus, most of us see wet much more often than snow). I think one of Ferrari's marketing glitches was the snowscape launch, which made people compare the car to a Quattro, whereas the FF is really a Ferrari V12 GT that is truly all weather.

    If you ever can, try an FF vs. any Quattro on a wet skid pad/figure 8, and/or on a wet race track. Put the FF's power aside, the grip, balance and confidence from the FF/4RM is amazing. FF is also laughably fast on an autocross if you figure out how to drive it to take advantage of the system.

    As for "usable", I'd just say it's amazing to be able to drive a Ferrari as much as possible, even when taking the kids to school, doing grocery runs - and at this point, my wife and I "need" the performance as it's just addicting.
     
  19. Name Brand

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    This is why I applaud FF owners. This model is truly underrated.
     
  20. uhn2000

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    Your killing me with that statement. I have been trying everything to avoid the f12 as my mind (and walet) keep saying go different but my heart says f12. Gonna pull the trigger on something after we move in April, maybe around September or October, a fun decision. Hehe.

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  21. rubaga

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    Great post! Good decision on making this drive with FF.
     
  22. Whoopsy

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    Actually I should have put it this way, the FF is the perfect companion to the F12.

    I have winter tires on both, I drive them year round. But the winter tires on the F12 is more for cold weather traction than actual snow. Within the city and the suburbs, the F12 on winter is perfectly fine.

    I was travelling alone, with a overnight bag, so luggage room and human carry capacity means nothing. But this trip means going down empty highways and country roads, and the added traction of the FF and winter mode could means getting stuck or not so it was a no brainer to take the FF.

    If at this moment I and force to make a choice and had to sell either the FF or the F12, the FF stays. It has 90% of the performance of the F12 yet has a lot of other attributes that cannot be ignored. I cannot think of another more versatile car, from any manufacturers. a 911 Turbo S comes close, but the FF is a whole lot roomier. A Bentley 'could' be an alternative, but who would want to drive a love child between an elephant and a barge?
     
  23. Brian L

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    90% ? That's strong.
     
  24. Playframe King

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    Hopefully we can help each other at your crossroads ---smiley.......gotta be FF....meeting the owners in Surrey recently confirmed this for me....
     
  25. Sandy Eggo

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    In pure HP terms, yah, the FF is about 90% of the F12 but when you look at lap times (the only track I could find with both having a recorded lap) the FF is ~97% of the outright performance of the F12. That said, a delta of 2+ secs per lap is pretty freaking huge.

    Vairano Handling Course lap times - FastestLaps.com
     

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