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  1. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #1 fatbillybob, May 2, 2014
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    This is what happens when your Ferrari runs right. That's right Zero on the emissions readings. These are the smog numbers I got today in California for my gray market Ferrari 550 Maranello with 64k miles. This car under my care has always blown clean. These numbers are cleaner than my 2001 concourse 550 Maranello with only 23k miles which has not had the little things that make for best running. I guess it is the little things that make my old Maranello cleaner, like Supremo SRI Gold Kit, regular driving, and cam timing with dial gauge and degree wheel. So if my old driver can do it yours can too. These cars were designed to be very clean. They fail or just barely pass when something is wrong. If you are getting bad numbers especially on a 355 find the cause before you melt down an engine.
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  2. pma1010

    pma1010 F1 Rookie

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    My 575 was smog'd two days ago. Clean as a whistle too.
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  3. SoCal1

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    Idle and 2500 rpm? no 15 -25 mph?
     
  4. fatbillybob

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    In the 1/2 dozen or so smogs I have gotten on the 550's never on the dyno. One guy explained that the 550 has weird traction control in its default state and the car freaks out if the 4 wheel speed sensors read a massive speed mismatch.
     
  5. SoCal1

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    OK cool I thought they turn off traction control to do it

    :)
     
  6. vrsurgeon

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    355's by their virtue are perfect cherubs of engineering. It is not the engine that is flawed.

    It is the machine.




    And then.. the wallet. :)
     
  7. smg2

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    something funny there, I wonder if this is due to the new OBDII testing now. FBB did they run the car on the dyno?
     
  8. Schatten

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    Impressive.


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  9. Motob

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    Also they did not check for NOX, which has been standard on the regular California smog test for years now, weird?
     
  10. mello

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    The last time I've had that kind of smog result in CA was on my Porsche 911 with an exhaust leak before the cats. Well done.
     
  11. johnk...

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    Nice post cat numbers FBB. My 355 did HC = 18ppm, CO = 0.1%, NOx = 31ppm. All @ 25 mph on the dyno, which is how we test in CT. Just a run of the mill 2.7 F355 as it came form Maranello and a pair of Nouvalari cats.
     
  12. cavlino

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    My 1997 355 also is smog tested like yours, exhaust pipe sniff. It also passes barely registering anything at all. Its due for another smog test this year, I will post those results when I do the test.
     
  13. srephwed

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    here in O'malleyland we have bi-annual emmision testing.One trip with my f-250 registered 0.0 across the board.There are supposed to be some kind of reading everywhere.I believe the person on duty did not want to deal with anything and pressed the pass it button.My 1985 mondial is inspection and emmisions exempt.All the more reason to own a Ferrari.beautifull weekend in O'malleyland.Made a trip to the Amish country and dodged some horse poop on the road and had a blast.If you own a Ferrari drive it! Otherwise you have a trophy on the mantle.
     
  14. hanknum

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    Good going FBB.

    As for the dyno and non-dyno testing...the counties in CA vary. Based on a county's air pollution levels, it may require stage I or state II testing (basic or enhanced).

    I agree, if the cars are tuned properly and have the emissions equipment operating correctly, there should not be a problem in passing.

    YMMV.
     
  15. Rifledriver

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    Can't test for nox unless under load.
     
  16. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    They should
     
  17. Rifledriver

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    #17 Rifledriver, May 6, 2014
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    They have a chart produced by the state showing which cars are dyno'd and which are 2 speed. Most of the exotics are not on the list so they have some discretion. On expensive cars they do not know they will usually do a 2 speed test. Some cars have been badly damaged by the wrong test so they are just being cautious.

    IIRC some late Volvos will destroy the transmission if a 2 speed test is done. Lots of smog stations very unhappy with the state for in the beginning not providing the info and now for providing incomplete or wrong info.
     
  18. Rifledriver

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    The new test is still in the testing phase. It is not applicable to all OBD2 cars either. It starts at a particular year and I don't recall which. I think it is 2005 or 2007.
     
  19. Rifledriver

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    Be careful or you'll have the 355 militia after you.
     
  20. vrsurgeon

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    I know.. some pretty serious cases of the Lake Wobegon Effect. :)
     
  21. I<3strippers

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    I've ran I to this problem on a bunch of cars on the dyno. (Not for emissions) Usually we can trick the system by putting it in gear, start the pull, cut the car off, restart right after and be golden.
     
  22. 601

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    2000 if you're referring to the elimination of the tailpipe test.
     
  23. Mozella

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    I'm just guessing, but perhaps the testing technician dropped the tail pipe sniffer probe on the ground when he bent down to pick up the hundred dollar bill which just happened to be lying on the shop floor.
     
  24. Rifledriver

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    Yes it is. Should have been done years ago but now that they have all those smog stations heavily invested in equipment they rip 3/4 of their customer base out from under them.

    Typical State of California BS.
     
  25. yelcab

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    So cars older than 2000 have the tail pipe test, or cars newer than 2000 have the tailpipe test?
     

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