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This REALLY worries me...

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  1. Akira

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    http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/90325

    I am glad that bad guy was caught this time. But I am not okay with US customs making a copy of my hard drive. I don't want anyone to have pictures of my family, contacts, my work data, my music, movies, etc. (I don't trust the security of these data once it is copied.)

    Which brings up the other question, isn't making a copy of music, photos, and movies illegal? RIAA is making a big deal about people making copies of CD's. How are they okay with US government copying the whole music library? I really don't like the direction this is going...
     
  2. EC308

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    does seem like an invasion of privacy.
     
  3. Schatten

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    Remember when people said, "oooh I have nothing to hide, so let them have at it." Well, it is a little late to care now.
     
  4. Etcetera

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    Maybe just cut to the chase and put all of our Gummint's law enforcement officers under one umbrella, and call that umbrella Protective Squadron or something. Better yet, Super Squadron...initials of SS on every epaulet.
     
  5. DrStranglove

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    Important point:

     
  6. ferraridude615

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    This might severely hamper the business travel industry, with businessmen no longer able to carry sensitive documents across border on their HDD.

    First signs that the US is turning into a "Big Brother-esque" society, NOT GOOD.
     
  7. RacerX_GTO

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    I wonder who the first one will be to let them scan a nice big, fat infected laptop.
     
  8. djui5

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    No kidding! This is getting really scary. Our privacy is getting thinner and thinner every day.
     
  9. Akira

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    Only thing is, if you refuse, they will call you terrorist and put you in jail without giving you any rights. You will be sent to military court and sentenced guilty by a committee in a week. You will never see your family and friends again...
     
  10. Ryan S.

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  11. RacerX_GTO

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  13. ADON

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    It's not like anyone uses the border checkpoints to enter the U.S. anyways. I'm just going to follow the line of illegals coming back in next time.
     
  14. ski_bum

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    I know that Windows NTFS passwords/encryption are EASILY bypassed. Done this a few times. Microsoft s*cks. I also know ways around laptop booting/setup passwords.

    Not a Linux/Mac guru. How good is the encryption in Linux/Mac?

    Anyone familiar with encryption software that really is bulletproof?

    I suspect our govt has tools/computing power to decrypt many encryption schemes.

    You would think someone could invoke the 5th amendment on revealing passwords. However our rights/freedom seem to be fading recently. Like the ink on the Declaration/Constitution/Bill of Rights.......... :(
     
  15. 4REphotographer

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    I am pretty sure if they want to the Gov't can gain access to the most complex encryption.
     
  16. Far Out

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    Afaik, the HD encryption methods on Linux are nearly unbreakable. But as someone said above, if you refuse to give out your password, you'll be a terrorist. This is really scary. Once the data is out, it's out... no way to get it back.
     
  17. TexasF355F1

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    It's scary, very scary. Unfortunately we all know/knew this is how the government works.

    I'd bet if you're interrogatted and you say your innocent and decline to give up the info they want, whether illegal or not, they'll be sure to remind you they are the government.
     
  18. BBL

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    Not true. Even today, they cannot do this for a simple refusal to answer.
     
  19. Far Out

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    A friend of mine was visiting her father who's working in the US 2 years ago. Average girl of... 19 years at the time iirc. Not in any way suspicious (drugs, coming from dubios country, whatever). She arrived at the airport, one customs guy asked her to come to a back room, they interrogated her for a couple of hours why she came to the US, what she wanted to do there etc. That she only wanted to stay with her dad for a couple of weeks didn't satisfy them, they put her on the next plane back without any more explanation. Guess the same thing would happen to you if you, as a foreign citizen, aren't willing to give out your password.
     
  20. amenasce

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    That is such bs . Who are they to look at my stuff ?
     
  21. DrStranglove

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    I doubt that if you are a US Citizen.
     
  22. S.H

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    So, this is what's happened to the rights America's forefathers fought for? "**** those *******s who fought for the freedom for Americans to enjoy!". I'd like to see the Founding Fathers' take on this... Although i would easily be able to predict the response.

    I can't believe this. Very sad. Ron Paul, please run independently!
     

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