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Those of you with Scud Ing F1 Relays...

Discussion in '360/430' started by Zed82, May 1, 2018.

  1. bellwilliam

    bellwilliam Formula Junior
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    thanks. but do you know what the difference betwwen 233100 and 194909? they are both F1 pump relay but different part number.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrari-430-599-50-AMP-Relay-P-N-233100/132877603912?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FERRARI-GENUINE-ORIGINAL-F1-PUMP-RED-RELAY-50A-F430-355-360-575-599-194909/263998683153?epid=2234450647&hash=item3d778c3811:g:rnYAAOSwbYZXWpZp:rk:13:pf:0
     
  2. f355spider

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    194909 is the older, original 50amp relay. Probably used in the earliest cars. It was superseded by the 233100. I think they are using 194909 in the listing title just trying to "catch" those buyers using the older part number. You will end up with a 233100 either way, as that is what is pictured in the 194909 listing. Enlarge the photos and look at the part number on the relay, it says 233100 right on top.
     
  3. mnogj

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    I dont have any records of the F1 relay being replaced on my 2007 F430 spider so I would like to change it myself. Do I order part # 233100 from Ebay or an aftermarket 70A or 80A unit that I see for sale on Ebay as an upgrade? Not sure if there is a benefit to upgrading to the higher amp relay... What is the general consensus?
    Also, is the fuse for the F1 pump 50A or 30A? I saw a YouTube video of someone who has a F430 who changed the fuse from a 30A to 50A.
     
  4. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    #104 f355spider, Jan 11, 2019
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    I believe either will work. I know of a couple owners using the 70amp relay. Note that if you search based on the part number of the actual relay, you can find it (for a Ranger Rover) you can get it for around $15 to $20. It is hard to read, but enlarge the photo and you can barely make out the part number...I can't find it now (I had it written down at one time). Way cheaper that what is being asked for the "Ferrari" listing of the relay. ;) Found it! Search using this "YWB500220" $11.31 on Ebay. Careful, please double check and make sure this is correct, I don't want to be responsible for a typo or error.
    I stuck with the factory 50amp. My thought is (depending on how long I keep the car), I'm going to replace this relay every 5 or 6 years regardless of 50 or 70amp, so figure to stick with the factory part.
     
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  5. skip737

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    Just so everyone knows. I just bought an accumulator for my 16M on eBay using the Alfa part number. I don't need it right now as my shifter is performing flawlessly. This is just for peace of mind in case it needs to be swapped out. It is the EXACT same unit as the Ferrari supplied part, minus the little black horsey on the box. I paid $150 for it, including shipping. It is $425 from Ricambi, and a whopping $1269 from Algar. A lot of money for a little black horsey. I had the same thing happen when I changed spark plugs. I got the plugs for $9 each on Amazon. They were $34 each from Ricambi. A little searching for parts can pay huge dividends.
     
  6. Zed82

    Zed82 Karting

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    Yep, i did the same. The accumulator is a pure Alfa part. Actually, on some parts on the F1-system it says "Selespeed". :)
     
  7. whatheheck

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    Excellent information!

    Similar to you my F1 system on my 2006 F430 Spider works perfectly. No fault beeps and primes in about 5 seconds when I open the door but I will go ahead and order an accumulator and have it changed preventively when I have my F1 system serviced again next year.

    Same situation here with spark plugs. I bought mine from Amazon and changed mine just two weeks ago and saved good money.

    Thanks again for sharing great info.

    Dan

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  8. bellwilliam

    bellwilliam Formula Junior
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    what's the Amazon link for spark plug?
     
  9. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    You can't search for NGK PMR8B (6378) yourself?
     
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  10. mwstewart

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    Just a word of warning about parts (not necessarily Ferrari branded ones): there are now a lot of Chinese fakes on the market - Bosch, NGK, etc.
    If it looks too cheap to be true sadly it now probably is.
     
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  11. whatheheck

    whatheheck F1 Rookie
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    Very true, especially spark plugs.

    Go to NGK website and it will tell you how to tell the difference between originals and knock offs.
     

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