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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Webraider, Jul 13, 2014.

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  1. Webraider

    Webraider Karting

    Sep 12, 2011
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    Ulli
    As my right rear tire got punctured (maybe nail/screw) and
    I need to replace it (will actually replace ALL...), I would
    appreciate any info as far as these items are concerned:

    - points underneath the car to place the lift at (pic ?)
    - torque of the screws in NM
    - tire pressure system: Any special ops or just do the
    normal re-calibration via the car-setup ?
    - special care when taking off the wheels in respect of
    the ceramic-brakes ( don't wanna ruin THEM ;) )

    Cheers and TIA,
    Ulli
     
  2. bigblock737

    bigblock737 Formula Junior

    Dec 19, 2013
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    Andy B.
    Moin Ulli,

    as my dealer closed his facility in my neighbourhood and I'm not willing to drive 300km for a tyre change I checked some points out in advance.
    Your mechanic will see where to put the lift - nothing special here. The torque for the screws is 120 Nm. After having set the correct pressure recalibrate the TPMS via set-up.
    Other than that it's just normal ops... ;)
     
  3. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA
    A tip on protecting the ceramic discs: Porsche makes a lug bolt guide tool that screws into the hub threads, it fits into Ferrari threads as well. Use two of theses guides and it is impossible to strike the brake disc.

    Damaging the disc is by far the biggest risk here, if you do, it will be a very expensive tire change.
     
  4. luvair

    luvair Formula 3
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    #4 luvair, Jul 13, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2014
    Brilliant info. I know 997/991 GT3 ceramics well, as it has one only one bolt to release the wheel, if you even hit the rotor with the wheel, the rotor is probably toast. So the Porsche mounting bolt guides for the Ferrari wheels is a great thought, and should be kept in toolkit, imo.

    Here is what they look like: Wheel Mounting Guide Bolt:porsche Parts & Porsche Accessories - Wholesale Porsche Parts & Tequipment
     
  5. Webraider

    Webraider Karting

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    #5 Webraider, Jul 14, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2014
    Thanks a lot, guys - Really helpful info/feedback !

    Funny, I'll be at my local Porsche-dealer for changing
    the tires anyway (am a longtime customer).

    So that tip about a special tool re: ceramic brakes is
    VERY MUCH appreciated.

    Guess they'd use it anyway for me as I always value
    the contact to ANY of the local mechanics WAY MORE
    than that to (most of the) salespersons. It pays out
    in the long run, be it tips given for free or, in this
    case, changing the tires on a foreign brand. ;)

    Thanks again and take care,
    Ulli

    @Andi:
    Auch ein Tamsen-Bremen-Geschädigter ? Ärgerlich für
    die Kundschaft, aber kein Wunder beim neuen Eigner.
     
  6. rlips

    rlips Formula Junior

    Jul 29, 2011
    959
    New Jersey, USA

    You are very welcome. To make it even easier for the Porsche techs, give them the proper tightening torque specification for the Ferrari. It is in the owners manual, I believe that Ferrari specifies a pre-tightening torque then a finishing torque. This will be different than standard Porsche procedure, so you may want to gently point it out.

    Cheers,

    Ron
     
  7. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

    Sep 18, 2007
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    Just another thought...
    I had the hub on my 458 spider damaged when the dealer was having some wheel work performed! Car has been the shop two weeks waiting for a new hub!
     
  8. Mrvista

    Mrvista Rookie

    Jul 13, 2014
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    How do you damage a hub when doing wheel work? Any more info on this?
     
  9. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

    Sep 18, 2007
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    Had something to do with replacing the lug nuts improperly and ruining the threads.
     
  10. Turbo360

    Turbo360 Formula Junior
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    Oct 21, 2011
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    also make sure you note the rims have no scratches on the lip, all to many times the people mount and unmount the tires at the dealers thin its ok to scratch the lips on the rims just make sure you have whoever is going to mount and un mount the tires they do not scratch it or they will be paying to fix the rim.
     
  11. Webraider

    Webraider Karting

    Sep 12, 2011
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    Ulli
    Once again valuable hints - Thanks to all.

    Didn't know about pre-tightening the screws,
    never heard of that procedure. So this is NOT
    the usual procedure of crosswise pre-tightening
    the screws you do when mounting the wheel but
    actually applying torque to all the screws once
    again before finally fixing them with 120 Nm ?

    Will OF COURSE do photographs of the rims BEFORE
    I put the car into the hands of those guys. Also,
    a friend will come along to take me back home
    once I've handed over the car (can't wait half a
    day) and be my witness as to the perfect state
    of the rims before the work is carried out.

    Don't get me wrong: I'm NOT the person making a
    habit of coming up with false claims to get new
    rims for free, but you DO have to watch your *ss
    nowadays... ;)

    Take care and enjoy your cars as life is quite short,
    Ulli
     
  12. luvair

    luvair Formula 3
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    Please note, you would need TWO mounting bolt guides for the avoid damages. With only one, the wheel still can sway in the wrong direction into the ceramics.
     
  13. Webraider

    Webraider Karting

    Sep 12, 2011
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    Ulli
    Just for future reference (e.g. someone searching the
    posts on this topic):

    The advised torque for the screws is 100 Nm only !

    Best,
    Ulli
     

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