From their websites... Pirelli: The mere passage of time (age) does not cause tires to deteriorate, but rather exposure to outside forces. The service life of a tire is a function of service and storage conditions. For each individual tire, this service life is determined by many factors such as temperature/weather, storage conditions, and service conditions (e.g., load, speed, inflation pressure, maintenance, and road hazard damage, etc.) to which a tire is subjected throughout its life. Since service and storage conditions vary widely, accurately predicting the service life of any specific tire based on chronological age is not possible. There is no scientific or technical data that establishes or identifies a minimum or maximum service life, but the longer a tire has been in service, the greater the chance that it will need to be replaced due to service-related conditions. Michelin: If the tires haven't been replaced 10 years after their date of manufacture, as a precaution, Michelin recommends replacing them with new tires. Even if they appear to be in usable condition and have not worn down to the tread wear indicator. Continental: Continental is not aware of any technical data to support the removal from service of tyres past a specific age. But the same principle applies to the tyres of your vehicle as for any other part of your car – age matters. Together with other members of the tyre and automotive industries, Continental advises that all tyres (including spare tyres) made more than ten years ago should be removed from service and replaced with new tyres. I will say that for performance driving I have always heard track day companies insist that tyres are no older than five years. A week after I bought my 430 I took professional track instruction and the instructor commented on low grip levels. He checked the tyres and they were 8 years old. At that point he postponed the lesson until after I had fitted new tyres. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thank you. Some people like over complicating things. I have some of the most experienced techs in the northeast advising and monitoring me.
Yup and if they are wrong your estate will have a great lawsuit. But at least your will be a great looking corpse and won’t have overspent on tires! Seriously, why waste time and money on complicating your life with consultants and advisors to tell you if you need to spend 50 cents to change your tires? Change your tires, oil and underwear regularly and you will be fine. You don’t need consultants to figure that out.
I am not intending to be piling on, but trying to emphasize that driving on 10 year old tires is not wise, particularly since you apparently can afford to replace them. Please do, particularly if your kids are riding in the car. There are numerous articles on this - https://www.thedrive.com/opinion/5189/the-truth-behind-what-caused-paul-walkers-fatal-crash
Michelin seem to be the consensus. That’s what Taz recommends (who’s Ferrari knowledge is second to none) and that is what I have on all my cars and I love.
I changed the 3 year old P Zeros, with plenty of tread left, in my gated 430 and also my DD C63 6.2 wagon, to MPS4Ss. Huge difference in feel, beyond initial turn in. Ride quality is much better. Much more communication of nuances during mid corner handling. I can’t say I have tested ultimate dry weather grip enough to be able to offer an opinion, I have only broken traction a few times on each type of tyre. The difference in favour of the Michelins gets greater for each degree it gets colder, or so it seems. No comparison with wet weather grip, Michelins in a totally different league. For a 612 I would say the Michelins would be leagues above the Pirellis. For a car more one dimensionally sporting maybe the P Zeros have something to offer on fast roads or tracks on a warm dry day. Note that MPS4S is a completely different tyre to MPS4. They get confused. I saw a F40 at a concours in France this summer on MPS4. Not the right tyre, made for family cars with spoilers.
MPSS tires are almost as good as the MPS4S as long as the build dates are good. They were producing both at the same time for a while. My MPSS tires were nearly timed out (2014) and a flat convinced me to put four new MPS4S tires on her.
regarding dates - have you always checked the tires you buy new? often they are over 2 yrs old, and ive seen up to 4 yrs. so much for putting time horizons on rubber!
im in the same boat but i feel like the 430 deserves the PS4s and the 612 is big and more GT so it cld be better off by the RE50As!
Yup, always check the dates. My four were all 2019 builds. Buying from a big supplier like Tire Rack is a pretty good guarantee of relatively fresh tires.
I I used to run Bridgestones when I was younger and poorer. I run them on my kid's BMW because he likes drifting with his friends on the weekend and he is highly subsidized !
reviews definitely don't sounds great here - may just stick with the PS4S on all the cars... https://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?&category=tire&additionalComments=y&commentStatus=P&tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE050A&fromTireDetail=true&frontTire=435YR0RE050A&rearTire=835YR0RE050A&tirePageLocQty=%26frontTire%3D435YR0RE050A%26rearTire%3D835YR0RE050A#
has anyone else tried the RE980? obviously will never drive the car in the snow with them. Image Unavailable, Please Login
WOW. That got a bit hot. Surprised to see Michelin recommended over Pirelli on here, but can't argue with that. Though I don't push the P zeros on the limo hard and so I'm happy with them. When I get the m5 back with PS4S on, I'll have more fun and I hope to get more than the 8,000 miles I got out of the PS2. Oh and the PS4S were dated 49/19 while it is 16/20 as I write. When I get my 612 I think I'll go with PS4S. I prefer the challenge style 20" wheels.......
Takes my wife's car's Pirellis a few miles to get round after sitting overnight. I was really unhappy when I saw it arrive at the dealer with Pirellis. Would much have preferred Michelins or Continentals (2020 GLE450). I love the MPS4S tires on the 575M.
I know you are asking about 19”. I have the 20” challenge rims off of a 599. Running Mich PS4S with 255/35/20 upfront and 305/30/20 NO (Porsche spec) in the rear. I love these tires. If I understood the Tire Rack tire specs, The PS4S NO 305’s show wider tire tread than their 315 width. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I wanted to get the Michelins or the Perelli tires for my ride, but they were not in stock anywhere. I ended up with Continentals and I'm very happy with my choice.
