today is an important day for Ferrari history

I think they spoiled the lines of the 458, which I have to agree with St. Jeremy is first beautiful Ferrari since the 308.

No problem with turbos. They didn't ruin the F40, and won't ruin the 458. If they do it anywhere near as well as Audi or Porsche, most drivers won't even know.

Notice how the 308 is red? Now look at the 488.

 

Interesting to note that Ferrari themselves ignore the 308gt4 as the first mid engined V8 model...

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Ferrari is delighted to announce the arrival of the new Ferrari 488 GTB.

Forty years on from the unveiling of its first ever mid-rear-engined V8 model, the 308 GTB,
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the Prancing Horse opens a new chapter in its 8-cylinder history.

The Ferrari 488 GTB provides track-level performance that can be enjoyed to the full even by non-professional drivers in everyday use.

While waiting for its launch at the Geneva International Motor Show in March, follow all the updates online at 488gtb.ferrari.com

Regards,
Ferrari Staff
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488 looks like a home run to me.

308 gtb got lots of love in the announcement.

 

There is absolutely no way you will be able to tell this car is a turbo engine. The latest BMW turbo motors are amazing and disguise any lag. I'm sure Ferrari will beat BMW here.

The freaking run to the turbo from the header could not be shorter either. Looks serviceable as well. Really exciting. Keeping it 4L gives lots of racing options as well.

 

What about that Dino thing?

 

What about sound?

 

Contribution to the bubble ?

 

Good point - it will hurt it potentially for sure. I was on the one-track mind of performance. Pretty funny, because I'm a sound snob when it comes to motors ; )

Buuuuut, they are keeping the redline way up there. I think they can totally tune it properly to sound good. Flat plane + high revs is a great base of music.

The BMW engines don't rev quite as high, but BMW did a ton with it in their sound studio. I'm sure Ferrari will do the same or better. I hope Ferrari does not do "active sound" - piping sound in through sound system.

For the record, all my cars are NA right now; but the new turbo motors are very impressive. I just think, given the current regulations, Ferrari put together an amazing package here.

This isn't a big lazy turbo motor, or a tiny high-strung one. An NA 4L V8 is a hell of a motor on a ~3k lb car. This thing has turbos - it's going to be crazy.

 

….and it's pathetic. This came from ferrari.com this mid afternoon PST.

""" Forty years on from the unveiling of its first ever mid-rear-engined V8 model, the 308 GTB, the Prancing Horse opens a new chapter in its 8-cylinder history. """

http://news.ferrari.com/public/read_message.jsp;jsessionid=0;apw67?sigreq=-1320160993

the link is non transferable to this forum, but I am sure plenty of you got this too…but that's the address !


Reads:

Dear Idiot,

Ferrari is delighted to announce the arrival of the new Ferrari 488 GTB. Forty years on from the unveiling of its first ever mid-rear-engined V8 model, the 308 GTB, the Prancing Horse opens a new chapter in its 8-cylinder history.

The Ferrari 488 GTB provides track-level performance that can be enjoyed to the full even by non-professional drivers in everyday use.

While waiting for its launch at the Geneva International Motor Show in March, follow all the updates online at 488gtb.ferrari.com

Regards,
Ferrari Staff

Silly me, I thought the first mid-engined V8: Was the GT4, Oh what, neglect it because it had a "Dino" badge on it, ok, then in 1975 there was no 308GTB…right?

School me if I'm wrong FChatters…Flame suit on ! Spark up your torches and away we go...

 

Honestly, in my unqualified opinion, I would assume it would contribute. But, is it really a bubble then or a shift in sentiment about the importance of the 308?

You have some willy-nilly millionaire out there...

"Oh yes, buy the 488; I want the newest Ferrari. It is the best road car in the world."
"Oh and this 308 GTB thing they speak of to park next to it. Plus it's like the original 488."

: P

Ferrari also recognized the 308 quite a bit in their recent 60 year celebration - a number of member cars were in the parade.

 

Paris 1975 launch of the 308gtb

 

I cant think of another... only the old V12 and stright 4's used the cc / cylinder eg 500 / 625 etc.

 

you are kind of right & wrong... the 308GT4 was the first 8cyl production Ferrari made, and it was mid engined ... however to be honest it was labeled a Dino... until they had to dump the dino badge and put Ferrari badges on to get them sold... so I think the factory is talking about the 308GTB as the first mid engined 8cyl production car....

 

How many threads with identical content do we need on this topic ?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328/476431-today-important-day-ferrari-history.html

 

VERY early in its history, the 308 GTB was going to be badged a dino as well.

That changed quickly before production began

 

Hmmm. 488 GTO going against new Ford GT.

Drooling a little.

 

Sorry Alberto, but this means 2.8 ltr. 8 cylinders.
Otherwise with single cc per cylinder it would just add to only 2.3 ltr.

Best Regards

Martin

 

First mid engine v8 ferrari is a dino gt4, second ferrari v8 dino is the gtb. end of story.

All non v12's were to be dino's until Ferrari realized those sales 'languished' which I disagree on but who cares. Ferrari rebadged all current and future dinos to be branded Ferrari. Regardless of 2 vs 4 seat counts. We all know this so to defend seems pointless.

Ferrari is all about marketing vs anything else so they create a story that fits to sell cars, not based on reality.

Anyone involved in brand marketing don't care about the history, just spinning good stories. If this car actually makes it to production I'll make my judgment then right now it's story boards. It looks good though imo!

Ferrari (and enthusiasts) still have a hard time giving the 246 respect as a Ferrari, even when the market values went up and everyone joined the popular bandwagon.

I shouldn't care but I get a bit PO'd when the gt4 is blatantly ignored when it bridged a significant gap from where Ferrari was to where it is now. Without the success of the gt4, the gtb may have been scrapped and all ferraris from the 70's could have gone strictly v12's.

 

I agree and think it is a link in marketing verbiage only... And I think the rear side vents are not really anything close to 308 looking except for General location.

I preferred the 458 and Speciale over this, and the 308 and 328 GTB over both of them.

Robb