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  1. DropGems

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    Is all this secret alien stuff really true or just rumors? I know it's hard to sift through all the bs and find out the actual truth of it all but why does scientology keep denying all the alien stuff if it's true? I know it would probably make them look insane, hah, but around half the US population already believes in aliens anyways, so why wouldn't they just come out with it? I believe the money scamming part but the aliens part just seems like some crazy rumor.
     
  2. Spasso

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    If you approach the alien question from the stand point of past scientists/authors like Carl Sagen and Issac Asimov, there is a possibility, yes. Can you really believe that out of the "billions and billions" of stars in the Universe that mankind is the only sapient? Odds are that we are not alone.

    If you approach this question from the stand point of the crack pot conspiracy theorists that babble on "Crackpot Radio" formerly hosted by Art Bell then no, don't believe what they say. I can come up with the same baloney in my sleep.
    Control the information available to your subjects and you control the subject (while fleecing his wallet).
     
  3. venusone

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    I'm backing up. Ok, Tom Cruise was 22 when he did "Top Gun" - he carried that off quite well. “Days of Thunder” w/ Robert Duval is one of my favorite racing movies. Watched him on James Lipton’s “Inside The Actor’s Studio” & while he may not be an intellectual giant he seems to be up front. That slightly crooked smile goes a long way. Cruise gets into whatever role (Rain Man, Last Samurai, etc.) & does it well. I'll stand by that man.
     
  4. Spasso

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    But it's such a phony crooked smile. Too cheezy. Makes me want to choke the guy..........................oooops, did I say that?
     
  5. racerx3317

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    An email i just got, i wonder how true it is...............


    Good Stuff Folks!!!

    A friend of mine just got back from LA and heard this scoop about Tom & Katie from someone who works at Universal. The source said that

    they (Tom & Katie) have a 5-year contract and he's paying her $8 million. The engagement happened so fast because Rob Thomas' (Matchbox 20) wife caught Rob and and Tom in bed together and they rushed the engagement so that it would overshadow that scandal. Obv., take it with a grain of salt. Read below. This was just published.

    Independent Sources Confirms Existence of Tom Cruise/Rob Thomas Rumor

    Independent Sources announced today that it hasn uncovered a new, previously undiscovered Tom Cruise rumor: Tom Cruise and Matchbox Twenty's Rob Thomas are lovers! Independent Sources has hesitated writing about Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes for many reasons. First, there are other things going on in the world that, believe it or not, rank higher on the importance scale. Second, pretty much everything that can be said is being said. However, someone (I'll call her Mistress of the Hollywood Rumor) just walked into Insider's office with the following dish that I feel compelled to pass on. I did a quick check of Technorati and it wasn't there. So even if it is not true, it is at least original. No doubt that anyone with an Internet connection has read about Tom Cruise being gay. According to rumor lore, he has had a long-time boyfriend in Chicago who is an Asian pilot for American Airlines. This is an accusation that Cruise and more importantly Cruise's many attorneys vehemently deny. There have been many stories that supposedly corroborate his sexuality but never a smoking gun. Rumor mongers attribute this to the fact that Cruise goes to great lengths to cover his tracks. We are told that everyone around him signs extensive confidentiality contracts with enormous penalties for indiscretion. (Exhibit A: the 8-page confidentiality contract Cruise's housekeeper was forced to sign). Such stories have been around for years and Cruise has evidently attempted to counter them with a series of high-profile heteronormative relationships. First, Nicole Kidman, then Penelope Cruz, and most recently Katie Holmes. In each instance, the "relationship" is actually a contract that gives the women a boost to their careers, a lot of money, and an elegant lifestyle. Here is where this particular rumor gets

    interesting. Not long ago, Marisol, the wife of Matchbox Twenty's Rob Thomas (who has had to contend with his own rumors of bi-sexuality) found her husband in bed with Tom Cruise causing Cruise's people to shift into high gear. First, Mrs. Rob Thomas was bought off for an undetermined sum. Second, Cruise and his handlers set out to immediately find Cruise a girlfriend. Second-tier actresses were targeted. A list was drawn up with Jessica Alba (#1 pick) and three other girls who fell out for various reasons. Originally targeted (#3 I think) but later rejected as "undesirable" was rumor queen Lindsay Lohan. Way down at #5 on the list was Katie Holmes, but that was the one with whom they were able to strike a deal. Once the contact was signed, photo ops were set up, leaks were made to the right places, and we've had celebrity relationship on steroids ever since. One thing I will credit this rumor for is how it nicely explains Tom's behavior this past few months-including the couch jumping episode on Oprah. Cruise simply didn't have time for the Holmes rumors to circulate at its normal speed and he couldn't allow it to be second page news while the tabloids focused on Brad, Jennifer and Angelina. No, this relationship had to immediately become the "it" topic. Well, that's how we hear it.

    [A reminder to those of you reading this who have trouble differentiating truth from unsubstantiated rumor: at this point this is all conjecture. All we are doing is confirming the existence of a rumor that the Mistress tells us is all over Hollywood.] We should also add that this story is a bit of a departure for us. If you are interested in keeping up to date on it and other celebrity gossip, we suggest Defamer.
     
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    Well, I'm quite sure he believes he doesn't need medication to cure his irresponsibility.
     
  8. FastLapp

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    He was good in War of the Worlds. But the movie was pretty stupid. Watching Cruise get chased by aliens all nite just gets old.
     
  9. Spasso

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    Although unsubstantiated, still a fun read.

    I remember wondering what the big hush-hush was surrounding his divorce from Nicole Kidman. She was strictly forbidden to talk about it.
     
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    I don't think she would risk her career and integrity for $8 mill.....

    This story seems bs.
     
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    Let me ask you this.. what do you think the reaction would be if Tom Cruise came out of the closet tomorrow? Do you honestly think Joe Six-Pack would make a point to see his movie on an opening weekend, or even on DVD six months later?

    Remember, this is career ACTING. Katie gets a huge role for 8 mil (probably more if she has kids), notoriety and instant A-List status. Tom gets to keep his career, the movie execs keep making money off of him and the public is happy to keep him in the mainstream. No conspiracy theories here, just business sense.

    C.
     
  13. racerx3317

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    I've actually heard this story more than once, only the dollar amount was different. If you think about it, it makes sense. When Tom and Nicole were first together she was up and coming, being with him helped her career and now she can go it alone. It might be the same deal with Katie. Who knows but if he came out right now it would have a huge effect on, one his career, two his personal life, and the personal lives of every woman he ever was photgraphed publicly with. It doesn't matter to me either way, his recent movies aren't too great in my opinion.
     
  14. Horsefly

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    If all true, it reminds me of the punchline to an old joke:

    Miss, now that we know what you are, we can haggle over the price.
     
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    So that's why Heather Graham keeps avoiding my phone calls....:)

    BTW, I'm married...and it didn't do much for my wife's share market, either. :)
     
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    Brooke Sheilds responds today:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/01/opinion/01shields.html?incamp=article_popular_3

    July 1, 2005
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    By BROOKE SHIELDS
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    I WAS hoping it wouldn't come to this, but after Tom Cruise's interview with Matt Lauer on the NBC show "Today" last week, I feel compelled to speak not just for myself but also for the hundreds of thousands of women who have suffered from postpartum depression. While Mr. Cruise says that Mr. Lauer and I do not "understand the history of psychiatry," I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression.

    Postpartum depression is caused by the hormonal shifts that occur after childbirth. During pregnancy, a woman's level of estrogen and progesterone greatly increases; then, in the first 24 hours after childbirth, the amount of these hormones rapidly drops to normal, nonpregnant levels. This change in hormone levels can lead to reactions that range from restlessness and irritability to feelings of sadness and hopelessness.

    I never thought I would have postpartum depression. After two years of trying to conceive and several attempts at in vitro fertilization, I thought I would be overjoyed when my daughter, Rowan Francis, was born in the spring of 2003. But instead I felt completely overwhelmed. This baby was a stranger to me. I didn't know what to do with her. I didn't feel at all joyful. I attributed feelings of doom to simple fatigue and figured that they would eventually go away. But they didn't; in fact, they got worse.

    I couldn't bear the sound of Rowan crying, and I dreaded the moments my husband would bring her to me. I wanted her to disappear. I wanted to disappear. At my lowest points, I thought of swallowing a bottle of pills or jumping out the window of my apartment.

    I couldn't believe it when my doctor told me that I was suffering from postpartum depression and gave me a prescription for the antidepressant Paxil. I wasn't thrilled to be taking drugs. In fact, I prematurely stopped taking them and had a relapse that almost led me to drive my car into a wall with Rowan in the backseat. But the drugs, along with weekly therapy sessions, are what saved me - and my family.

    Since writing about my experiences with the disease, I have been approached by many women who have told me their stories and thanked me for opening up about a topic that is often not discussed because of fear, shame or lack of support and information. Experts estimate that one in 10 women suffer, usually in silence, with this treatable disease. We are living in an era of so-called family values, yet because almost all of the postnatal focus is on the baby, mothers are overlooked and left behind to endure what can be very dark times.

    And comments like those made by Tom Cruise are a disservice to mothers everywhere. To suggest that I was wrong to take drugs to deal with my depression, and that instead I should have taken vitamins and exercised shows an utter lack of understanding about postpartum depression and childbirth in general.

    If any good can come of Mr. Cruise's ridiculous rant, let's hope that it gives much-needed attention to a serious disease. Perhaps now is the time to call on doctors, particularly obstetricians and pediatricians, to screen for postpartum depression. After all, during the first three months after childbirth, you see a pediatrician at least three times. While pediatricians are trained to take care of children, it would make sense for them to talk with new mothers, ask questions and inform them of the symptoms and treatment should they show signs of postpartum depression.

    In a strange way, it was comforting to me when my obstetrician told me that my feelings of extreme despair and my suicidal thoughts were directly tied to a biochemical shift in my body. Once we admit that postpartum is a serious medical condition, then the treatment becomes more available and socially acceptable. With a doctor's care, I have since tapered off the medication, but without it, I wouldn't have become the loving parent I am today.

    So, there you have it. It's not the history of psychiatry, but it is my history, personal and real.

    Brooke Shields, the author of "Down Came the Rain: My Journey Through Postpartum Depression," isstarring in the musical "Chicago" in London.
     
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    There's a poll going on today on AOL. Question:

    Do you agree with:

    A. Shields

    B. Cruise.

    So far: Shields--94%, Cruise--6%
     
  19. alanhenson

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    I am a Chiropractor with a degree in Pychology and Biology so I am less predisposed to medicating people but Tom Cruise does not know what the hell he is talking about. There are plenty of good reasons to medicate people especially in the short term. It is an excellent way to jump start a person to recovery from psychological illness. He is such a pompass ass for even suggesting that he knows anyhthing about how to treat these people. Yes we do over medicate people in the US. He is right about that. But there are plenty of very good uses for these psychotropic medications.
     
  20. racerx3317

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    I agree totally with Brooke Shields and i'll only add this, Tom Cruise hasn't even dealt with a woman suffering through something like this, didn't he and Nicole Kidman adopt? Not only has he not had this condition he's never even KNOWN anyone that has. That makes him a real expert. He can believe what he likes but in his case he should keep it to himself, everybody thinks he full of sh$t at this point.
     
  21. DMC

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    Their 2 kids are adopted. It was rumored that Nicole had a miscarriage right before they split up. She come across as a normal person and far more classy than him. With the persistent rumors that he is gay, it makes you wonder if Nicole was starting to look elsewhere. Either that, or her refusal to convert to Scientology (she's never said, but it's assumed) split them up.
     
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    I honestly dont think anyone really understood and got the true meaning of what he was trying to say. IMO, he was saying that drugs to treat depression dont work. and by saying that, i mean that they work to help you feel less depressed and all that good stuff, but once you stop taking them, you go right back to where you were before, possibly even worse. it sounded like he was trying to say that drugs are just a mask to the problem. yeah, sure, they help people feel better while they are on the drugs, but once people are off of them, they are still depressed. hes supporting a way of natural remedies and finding out whats causing the depression and taking steps to fix it. and he was right in the fact that these drugs arent worth it, because for the people that they temporarily help, they hurt about as many people through thier abuse of the drugs...
     
  23. CMY

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    Makes sense to me...

    Shields = Princeton Educated

    Cruise = E-Meter Hawking Crackpot
     
  24. PMDDMD

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    This is the trouble with the uneducated...they get a little bit of knowledge on a subject and genuinely believe themselves experts. They're simply not bright enough, nor educated enough to know their own limitations. A truly learned person is acutely aware of the fact that they do not and cannot know everything.
     
  25. DropGems

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    I actually remember reading Brooke Shields story in People magazine. She had postpartum depression and started taking paxil then she tried to come off paxil and had like horrible withdrawal and became suicidal so she had to get back on paxil and it screwed her life up for like a year. So maybe Cruise meant that she should've just rode out the postpartum depression (which is a natural common reaction after child birth that usually lifts in a couple months) instead of getting more messed up on the drugs.
     

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