Tony Robbins and the "self help industry"

He's got a new show. Pretty interesting.

 

NLP is a prominent part of Tony Robbins program. Featured muchly in his earlier books & programs.

Neat stuff...can have quite an impact if used correctly.

 

I think some of the bad blab out there about Tony Robbins is really more about the delivery than the message. Tony is an in-your-face guy, which turns off some people. Not to mention he's a rather high energy guy, too

Too bad, cuz I think his ideas are very good and can actually work, if someone -decides- they really make some changes.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6740C720100805

 

As a lawyer, I'm used to forcing myself to read obtuse, uninteresting material. I enjoy books on psychology and personalities. I picked up Awaken The Giant Within and about half way through I still couldn't make sense of it, and stopped.


Like Darth said, Robbins is just a product himself. An emotional band-aid to assuage inner guilt without resolving it.

 

I agree with what SRTMike is saying.

Tony Robbins doesnt bug me though. Everyone finds inspiration in different ways. As long as Robbins is inspiring some people then its okay in my book.

For example, Positive reinforcement never worked on me...what works on me is negative. Tell me how great or smart I am and its meaningless. Tell me Im a moron who cant do XYZ and watch how fast I go and prove you wrong.

For some its the exact opposite.

 

This is an interesting thread. I read a book several years ago entitled "SHAM - How the Self-Help Movement made America Helpless". It's a good read, and provides some pretty telling data regarding the self-help movement.

http://www.amazon.com/Sham-Self-Help-Movement-America-Helpless/dp/1400054095/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1281049615&sr=1-1

I used to work for Steven Covey when I was in school, and, although the material is helpful, it only works if both sides are playing from the same playbook. That's not the case. Much of it is common sense, some of it is discipline, but after spending time with the facilitators pitching the program and the Dr. himself, it was evident it was designed to provide a very nice lifestyle for them. I called them to the table on several accounts to practice what they preached, and they clearly operated by a different set of principles and habits than those being pitched.

 

Jerry, you're a hack and lack creativity!

 

My wife likes to listen to two people: Joyce Meyer and Wayne Dyer. As with any speakers, I think it comes down to what you're looking for out of them and what you do with their messages. In my wife's case, she likes Meyer's Christian messages put into a day-to-day modern context. Yes, she sells books and CDs, but as a religious barker she's on the legit end of the scale. As for Dyer, he says a lot of things that I think many of us could benefit from--peace of mind type messages. I'm pretty laid back and have always been pretty good at managing stress, perspective, etc. As for my wife, she's wired more in the way where she just needs to hear those words now and then reminding her how to let go of those PITA things we encounter every day.

 

That's not very type-A of you!

 

I like Tony Robbins' ideas, but you need something to apply them to. If you go to his seminar for a day you can walk out saying "I can do it! I can do it". Then you get back in your car and say "Do what?"

As far as MLMs go, in some cases they are selling snake oil products, and in some cases they are simply scams. The FTC gets around to shutting the scams down after a while, but of course people get hurt before that happens.

Once an MLM gets big and successful, you're always going to have people who screw up and say or do things they shouldn't. Again, it's up to the MLM to police their people and get things back on track, but just because there are some nutty people out there doesn't mean the products or the business is bad.

 

I use to put on Joyce in the morning while getting ready for work.

She's not bad. But I do get a vibe from her that she could tear you limb from limb mean.