Tony Stewart hits and kills fellow racer

Sorry, but how many times do you want me to write the same thing?

Tell me now, please.

Thanks.

CW

 

reading comprehension not your strong suit eh?

 

What's the evidence you have? It's just conjecture - he may have had time to swerve but we can't tell, he may have not swerved when he had time to, but we can't tell etc. Where's any evidence, video or otherwise, that he had a chance not to hit the guy when he jumped in front of his car? Please point it out, I haven't seen it. All I see is a guy running down the track, almost get hit by one car and then jump in front of another car and get hit. You seem to have some evidence that TS could have avoided him or purposely hit him. Where is it?

 

I believe the police said two video's from fans. I've searched for footage of Tony Stewart onboard in sprint cars and only come up with one.

Since driver's don't want cams that hurt their aero - most sprint car onboards are either rear facing, or almost behind the driver's helmet on the left side. Ward would not show up on either common place for a sprint car to put a camera.

 

Posted numerous times already, but you simply REFUSE to accept it. So, how many times more would you like me to repeat it for you here on out?

CW

 

Cornerswell is laying out legal responsibility - since the footage we have is not completely clear, further footage may reveal it be one way or the other.

Digital camera's have inaccuracy over film in that instead of capturing the entire film at once when exposed, the sensors read in with delay - parts of the picture are recorded at different times. With longer exposure required for dim lighting, this gets even harder. The video out in the public has it appear that Ward tripped/jumped into Tony's car. It shows very little of tony's car as it approaches to know what Tony was doing. Because the two objects are not moving together - the digital recording will be highly inaccurate in its placement of objects. A shot from the other side of Tony's car in addition to existing footage would be needed to be more conclusive. Until then, we really do not know for a certainty.

 

Anybody here pontificating ever spent time on track? How manyy times has the yellow come out and one car hit another. Happens every day. You are going fast then suddenly everybody slows down, you are expecting certain things to react to, and a pedetrian on the track is most likely not in your frame of reference.

If someone jumps out onto the highway and the car next to you swerves and just avoids that person and you dont react quickly enough are you culpable. If someone lays down on the train tracks and the driver does not react in time is he culpable.

If you run across a shooting range, maybe everybody sees you in time and stops shooting maybe they dont and you get shot.

How many times every year do people walk into aeroplane properellors.

This as racing firchrisake, things happen and they happen fast, no one and I mean one one should be on track when cars are running. Even broken cars on flame get hit by other cars under the yellow. Track workers runnign to the secne get hit. Normaly if peopel are going to be on track the balck flag is out, know what that mreans, all cars stop immediatly, thats why there is a black flag as opposed to yellow.

What is interesting is that so many armchair quaterbacks who have never been on a track are pontificating as though this was a parking lot incident or a ballet class for plaintiff lawyers to write rules.

I even had some 75 yo woman in my office today who lives in NYC and thinks cars are called taxis telling me about this and speculating culpability.

What makes this all so inetresting is the national interest from squid heads who know zip about driving and even less about what its like to be on track.

The media is making a show because Stewart is a showman, becasue america loves to pull down and burn the sucessful only to then enjoy the orgyfest of tears as the resurect from the shame a few years later. Racing is not Oprah


You walk onto a track while cars are running you most likely get hit period. Hell people even get hit running across the pits when cars are heading out. Drivers are focussed on where the other vehicles are , not on suddenly relaising some alien being has teleported in front of them. One of the reasons we go to the track for speed is its a contained enviroment somewhat predictable, people walking on track are not part of it.

Its really no different to hitting adeer that runs out of the woods in front of you.

 

Interesting info. Regardless of which way any cameras on any of the cars are pointing, though, it's still pretty shocking that the sum total of video used in the investigation consists of just 2 fan videos taken from a distance. It seems rational to ask why those 2 are the only videos the investigators have to work with.

 

Please, time to stop feeding this troll! He sounds like a very rejected person full of anger and vile against racers. No facts, no sources, just ridiculous drivel.

Meaning ASJ, not you CW

 

You have not posted anything other than law wording and conjecture. Often the conjecture is in direct conflict with what evidence we do have, so I'm asking again, what evidence do you have?

FYI, good article that backs up exactly what many here have been saying, and from people that have raced with TS before.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-area-sprint-car-drivers-danny-jennings-and-joe-wood-jr.-weigh-in-on-tony-stewart-tragedy/article/5156692

 

I do know that a very respected local attorney is now retained as TS counsel in prep for the inevitable civil suit.

 

... what are you people doing? Reading news articles? Or, skip passed them, scrolling straight down to the free commenting?

If somebody's primary source of information in life is, the Ferrari chat? Worse, if they're somebody who relies solely upon organized motorsport journalists, to form the basis of their belief system? Then, they are myopic; they are substantively and systematically misinformed. And, I would recommend tabling the unwarranted hostility, the personal slights, and the sophomoric name-calling long enough to broaden their perspectives; scratch the surface.

People don't change. They believe what they believe. Period. And, that's that. I realize that. Its apparent I come from a different microcosm than people here, where we research multiple sides of an issue to the extent we can argue from any angle with equal enthusiasm, before advocating a particular point of view, as opposed jumping to the first convenient conclusion which bolsters their peculiar view the world, foisting unwarranted hostility, name-calling and the penny-ante psychobabble, upon anyone who disagrees.

To broaden your information base, definition of "a terrorist," or "a troll" is not someone posting up a contrary viewpoint, or someone who disagrees with you (e.g., irrespectively).

Had you delved into this issue, vaulted beyond simply reading the articles, had you performed an active reading upon everything you've read, and had you the wherewithal to denote something peculiar, about this whole thing? Missing content? As though, somebody censored content; clipped central inferences? Enough so, to prompt you stop, to back out of your browser, venture away, to mainstream and alternative news sites? All this information was freely available, bright and early Sunday morning, in several reputable on-line publications well removed organized motorsport.

You think you're ever going to get the straight scoop, from organized motor sport? You are sorely mistaken. In case you haven't noticed, no content in contemporary society is more heavily censored, than organized motor sport - asj.

 

Backs up my personal experiences with the man....

 

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Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about. I thought I asked a pretty simple question. Please cite your sources.

CW

 

Or a;lternatively its called judgement based on experience. You on the other hand like to be able to argue any point of view well, which is a good skill for a plaintiff lawyer, ie to make a case sound plausiblke where really there is none.

 

This is now like trying to have a conversation with Rain Man.

Believe whatever you want to believe. You ignore everything else, anyway.

CW

 

First off, a black flag is used to call a car/driver off the track. A red flag is to stop cars where they are. As for hitting another car under yellow, if your point is that "things happen" I can understand that but if you were the car that caused the yellow you usually have a full lap to get back to the point where you caused it. "Surprise" would not be something you would be entitled to.

 

That's what I thought, you have nothing. Please post what you've got if you have anything.

 

I have. Several times. So, why would I waste more time with you?

Believe whatever it is you want, and we'll see if the jury agrees with you.

CW

 

Ignore

 

Does anyone else get the feeling asjoseph had a close friend or family member killed at a race track?

 

I agree. Let's get back on topic.

CW

 

My thoughts are Stewart may have tried to buzz by him closely or spray him with dirt perhaps. No way did he intentionally try to hit him.

 

It might be interesting to do a poll on where people are on this.

CW