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  1. Etcetera

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    #1 Etcetera, Dec 22, 2004
    I haven't seen the list before, well, not after the 360 CS test. Does anyone know where I can grab a copy of the Enzo test?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/

    1st Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
    2nd Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
    3rd Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
    4th Ford GT - 1.21.9
    Joint 5th Ferrari 360 CS - 1.22.3
    Joint 5th Porsche GT3 RS - 1.22.3
    Murcielago - 1.23.7
    Zonda - 1.23.8
    Koenigsegg - 1.23.9
    Noble - 1.25.0
    Gallardo - 1.25.8
    Lotus Exige - 1.26.4
    Chevrolet Corvette - 1.26.8
    Porsche 911 GT3 - 1.27.2
    TVR 350c - 1.27.5

    Then:
    BMW M3 CSL - 1.28.0
    Dodge Viper SRT-10 - 1.28.5
    MG SV - 1.28.6
    Porsche 911 Carrera S - 1.28.9 (very wet)
    Mitsubishi Evo VIII - 1.28.9
    BMW Alpine Z8 - 1.29.0
    Mercedes CL65 - 1.29
    Alfa 3.7 GTA - 1.30.0
    Subaru Impreza STI - 1.30.1
    Aston Martin DB7 GT - 1.30.4
    Audi S4 - 1.30.9
    Porsche 911 turbo - 1.31.0
    Vauxhall VX 220 turbo - 1.31.3
     
  2. Etcetera

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    #2 Etcetera, Dec 22, 2004
    From page two:

    Honda NSX Type R - 1.31.6
    BMW M3 - 1.31.8
    Nissan 350Z - 1.31.8
    Mazda RX8 - 1.31.8
    Ford Focus RS - 1.32.2
    Lotus Esprit V8 - 1.32.5
    Audi TT V6 - 1.32.7
    MG ZT - 1.33
    Noble - 1.33.1
    Mercedes SL 55 AMG - 1.33.2
    Volkswagen Golf R32 - 1.33.2

    And the rest:

    Volvo S60R - 1.35.0
    Ferrari 575 - 1.35.2
    Alfa 147 GTA - 1.35.6
    Lotus Elise - 1.35.6
    Aston Martin Vanquish - 1.36.2
    Renault Clio v6 - 1.36.2
    Honda Civic Type R - 1.36.5
    Saab 95 hot aero - 1.37.9
    Mazzer - 1.38.0
    Bowler Wildcat - 1.39.4
    Bentley Arnarge - 1.40.8
    Overfinch - 1.44.0

    I wonder if the 575 had flat tires for the test.
     
  3. Etcetera

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    #3 Etcetera, Dec 22, 2004
    Page 3:

    Fat kid on roller blades - 10.52.37
    Ford Explorer - 12.39.8
     
  4. Serpent Driver

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    #4 Serpent Driver, Dec 22, 2004
    www.sleepy-fish.com I think i found it on that site, when i downloaded the test. Btw, it's awsome!! :D
     
  5. stephens

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    #5 stephens, Dec 22, 2004
    In the recent Vanquish/575 test the 575 time was referred to as being one of the wettest days in history, so the time is not really relavent. The time in this second 575 test was a 1.26, faster than the GT3 and Corvette, not much slower than the Gallardo.
     
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    #6 bottomline, Dec 22, 2004
    I can't believe 3-5 are on there.

    I can't believe the Koenigesegg and Zonda were outdone by the Ford GT.
     
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    #7 Tony Liokossis, Dec 22, 2004
    What I find interesting is the 911 Turbo's times. I remember this thing being compared favourably (in CAR's PCOTY for example) to the stock 360 because it had more torque (turbo) and 4WD, but then I saw them both tested by R&T I think it was, and Steve Millen lapped 3 SECONDS faster in the 360! Even the C5 Vette was faster than the 911Turbo. Interesting to see the 360CS so much faster than a Gallardo, the F430 should really punish it. No wonder they are contemplating more power. At the end of the day, Ferrari's tend to have smaller engines, skinnier tires, no turbos and no 4WD relative to their competition, all of which would seem to be disadvantages but they kick ass on lap times. Ferrari must be doing something right.
     
  8. Ferrari0324

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    #8 Ferrari0324, Dec 22, 2004
    Why isn't the Mclaren F1 on there?
     
  9. Joker

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    #9 Joker, Dec 22, 2004
    Gotta take it for what it is: Times on their own homebrewn "track" on an old airfield in very varying conditions (english weather). I like TopGear, but since it's not done back-to-back the numbers aren't really worth much.
     
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    #10 Etcetera, Dec 22, 2004
    Sounds like a good explanation. They need to put test notes in this list.
     
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    #11 Etcetera, Dec 22, 2004
    They couldn't find one to test :).
     
  12. Adrift

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    #12 Adrift, Dec 22, 2004
    The 911 turbo (996tt?) driver would had to have been asleep at the wheel to place that far back.

    I don't think that is a representative time.
     
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    #13 Robbin, Dec 22, 2004
    Agreed. The wet/dry conditions make huge differences. CSL Viper times were in the wet and I suspect the turbo time as well.
     
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    #14 No Mercy, Dec 22, 2004
    You guys must understand that many of those times are from tests in the rain. You can't test all of those cars under the exact same conditions but to test some on a dry track and some in the rain makes no sense. I have the video of their SRT-10 Viper test and it was pouring rain. A Viper on the street in the rain is a handfull. I could only imagine how tough it would be trying to post a quick time on a road course in the rain.

    Those numbers are flawed ...
     
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    #15 stephens, Dec 22, 2004
    Just as annoying, they aren't keeping the lap tims on the web site up to date with the show.
     
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    #16 F1racer, Dec 22, 2004
    Technically....
    The 2004 Renault F1 car of Fernando Alonso is the fastest car that went around the track. (driven by the Stig)
    59 sec


    So the Enzo is 20 secs slower than the F1 car.

    The video of the Renault F1 car could be found over here:
    http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=932
     
  17. Aircon

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    #17 Aircon, Dec 22, 2004
    I wonder who the Stig is? Damn he did a good job driving that thing. Can't be easy, and he caught a BIG slide!
     
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    #18 ETW, Dec 22, 2004
    Even if their tests aren't very scientic, I still find them very entertaining. I think the lap times shouldn't be recorded if it's in the wet though
     
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    #19 FLATOUTRACING, Dec 22, 2004

    Peter,

    Stig is Stig Bloomquist. A former world class (and several times WRC champion) rally driver from Sweden who raced everything from little 16v Saabs to the awesome Group B Audi's. I think he has also won Pikes Peak. He is now in his 50's I believe but still one hell of a driver.

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    #20 Aircon, Dec 23, 2004
    Are you sure about that? They used to have one stig, who wore a black helmet, but he mysteriously disappeared and was replaced with a new stig in a white helmet. that would be quite a coincidence if both of these guys had the name "stig"!! is it him? has it always been the same guy?
     
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    #21 VMax, Dec 23, 2004
    The first (black) Stig's name was Perry McCarthy.
    His disappearance wasn't that mysterious - he drove a nitrous-boosted Jag off an aircraft carrier, remember? :)

    Neither of the Stigs were ever any relation to Stig Blomqvist.

    This (white) Stig is either Johnny Herbert or Ben Collins, IMO (Ben Collins is the guy who drove the Mercedes that the other guy parachuted into a while back).

    Here's another question to join the "Who is The Stig" one - Why Stig?
     
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    #22 ashsimmonds, Dec 24, 2004
    i think they just painted the helmet.
     
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    #23 robiferretti, Dec 24, 2004
    its tough to compare wet track times to dry
     
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    #24 Auraraptor, Dec 24, 2004
    No I don't.... Do tell! :)
     
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    #25 Koby, Dec 25, 2004
    Fun show to watch, but that list is fairly worthless.
     

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