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Total Number Parts in a 360 Modena?

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  1. andy308

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    I don't know what made me think of this (too much time on my hands), but I was wondering how many total parts, every nut, bolt, etc.. are on a 360. It would be interesting to compare various models and years. Ok, I am gong back to online poker now.
     
  2. andrew911

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    Per the ferrari factory video I watched on youtube than bought for myself from national geographic channel's website, there are 800 parts in the 599gtb motor. Probably about the same in the 430 especially since they kept referring to the 599 in the video and 1/4 of the video shots were of a 360 being built- ha!

    My bigger concern is the amount of online poker you play if you think of such things in your spare time ;)
     
  3. forgeahead

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    with all that time on your hands, you may as well change out the face color of your rev counter a few times!
     
  4. andy308

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    If I did it would add to the total number of parts!
     
  5. Ricambi America

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    My guess would be about 3000-4000 parts in a 360 -- BUT (and this is a big "but"), a lot of stuff is simply an 'assembly' where the individual nuts and bolts aren't listed as discrete items. For example, a thermocouple might have a electrical connector on the end of it, and several pins in that connector. Should it be counted as a single item, or perhaps 5+ discrete items?

    If we get way down into the philosophical weeds, I might argue there are absolutely no more than 118 raw, lowest level physically possible, components in any Ferrari. ;)
     
  6. Back Marker

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    113 must be Unobtanium, of which most old car parts are made.

    That table made me feel old. There weren't near that many when I took Chemistry. I'm thinking maybe 105/106 or so elements.
     
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    I think most cars are like that.

    When I sold my 97 E420 Merc, I added up the receipts and maintenance paid. The Xenon headlamp that I needed to replace once was like 7% of the whole car's value. I replaced the steering rack once (don't ask) and the part alone was damn near $2k. For a car that only traded for $17k when I unloaded it, that was pretty steep.

    Having said that, I would be happy to have a customer replace every single item in the car. Luca and I would be eating Kobe steak instead of Ramen noodles.
     
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    #10 andy308, Dec 20, 2009
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    The first 10 tables of part numbers have about 2,200 parts total, or about 220 parts for each table. If we assume (big assumption here) that each table stays close to this average and we multiply 220 times the number of tables there are (102 total) we get about 22,400 parts. So we can probably assume that the true number lies between 20,000 and 25,000 parts.
     
  11. Ricambi America

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    Unfortunately, just counting the parts in the catalog will result in an inaccurate number:

    1) The tables list multiple part numbers for USA, CDN, EUR, AUS, etc cars. So, you might see a single LH headlamp in there 5 times, depending on the market it was made for, and the xenon vs. non-xenon construction. Then, add into the mix that headlamps are pre-painted. So, for each LH headlamp you also have distinct SKU's for the color code and paint type (Glasruit or PPG). In this respect, the coachwork parts numbers balloon very quickly.

    2) Interior leather is also quite complex, because it is color coded. A single seat can have 10 different color codes.

    3) RHD vs. LHD variations are throughout the mechanical and coachwork. A single steering rack for example, will appear multiple times depending on RHD or LHD vehicles.

    4) Substitutions, supersessions, and assembly number breaks. The catalogs will show all the possible variations for a single item (like a gearbox pinion for example). It's only physically in the car once -- but appears in the catalog lots of times because of superssions and changes throughout the total vehicle production run (assembly number cutoffs)

    .. and a whole bunch of other reason too, I'm afraid.

    :(
     

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