Tour Auto, France 17-22 April

I guess that driving a replica makes it somewhat easier to go to 8000 revs...

Not exactly fair for other competitors driving original cars though....

 

Exact purchase date was 22 December 1979.

Marcel Massini

 

Same story at other events such as Goodwood etc., but it's not only about the other competitors with genuine cars.
Imagine you go with your family as regular spectator, say total of four people (your wife and you plus 2 kids/teenagers), buy all the tickets, spend another fortune for travel, lodging, food, programs, automobilia, etc.
And then you get to see mostly fakes and replicas and one day your kids will start asking questions.........
How do you feel?

Marcel Massini

 

Welcome to the Bugatti world.

 

You did react on a comment I did posted 40min ago
and is lost in space now ,because the FC over head did not like it an took it away I suppose.

to answer you question NO NO NO

8000 revs are not a problem for every 250gt engine.
I do understand that some people don't like to rev them as they worry about wearing them out.
these engines are designed to use them up to the red line thats is permitted
of course this means maintain you're engine and if you don't you can't do this with impunity
otherwise -do so-thats what their creator intended.

I did give im my post the info that the mentioned SWB blow up at 8000 rpm his hardy desk in the back
smashed fuel pumps & filter and underbody panels etc
but ran the next day again
and some further comments which were not appreciated

C.

 

250 Engines were designed and built for high revs when new. But we are now about 60 years later and most owners will not go to (or over) the red line out of mechanical sympathy and cost aspects.

In historic F1 racing a big wallet allows for higher revs equaling more power (and shorter engine maintenance intervals as downside).

(Historic) races should be decided on merit and not on wealth....

 

I remember well in April 1982 when Fabrizio Violati drove a 250 GT with a (probably 4 liter) engine in practice at Monza, against Swiss Albert Obrist in a proper and honest 3-liter 250 GT SWB. No wonder was Obrist extremely frustrated, he had no chance. Italy at its best...........

Marcel Massini

 

I have nothing against fakes and replicas, but then there must be a sign outside that all know it is not a real car

 

This is the case in Tour Auto, reps are marked with a (c) on the entry list.
Unfortunately the 512M (c) is out after having lightlty hit the wall in Charade.
Lot of cars are out today including the leader T. Boutsen in a Shelby Cobra.

PS => The black Boano is still in Paris, was seen last year on a Sunday Morning in Place Vauban.
The owner has done Tour Auto a couple of times with his Osca. Discreet and very nice enthusiast.

 

Marcel,

As other have said, as long as they are noted as a replica, it's OK, because I may have not been fortunate enough to see the real ones, or they may no longer exist, i.e. Sharknose 156. I love to see them, the more accurate the better. Gives a flavor for what racing was like when those cars were real. Also, as far as cost, the people with a replica pay the same entry fees, and have costs as well to put on the show.

Perry

 

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Not an original, but still hurts to see.

 

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Is there a list of serial numbers for the 308s that participated this year? I’m curious to know if any were legit Michelotto cars…

 

Hahaha.

Marcel Massini

 

there was one Michelotto, one Facetti and two modern conversions. All correctly noted in the entry list.
#252 = 20457
#254 = 18971
#274 = 32419
#275 = 19759

 

Appreciate it. Is there a website where this info is located? I’d like to begin researching as I plan to enter my Michelotto group iv once the restoration is finished.

 

Nice! Original one or a (c)? Last time I did the TA there was no original.

ciao

Oscar

 

Original Michelotto group iv #18905. Here it is in Auto Sprint magazine (1983) with Rene Arnoux testing it at Fiorano. It’ll be restored to this iteration although it had a long and lively race history.

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Nice! Any b thread where we can follow that process?

 

Good to hear…mine will still take some time, but perhaps next TA!

ciao
Oscar

 

No website, I've just seen these cars at Tour Auto during the last years

 

I may post a few updates then the finished product but an entire thread with progress photos isn’t likely. Cristiano and I discussed the “fingerprints” on these cars along with all of the things that make them uniquely Michelotto, particularly all of the things the late copies or even other period cars didn’t have, and I’d prefer to keep that stuff quiet and special to the originals. I do plan to show the car extensively when it’s finished and then onto rally/track events worldwide so it’ll be a very visible car vs hidden away.

 

Maybe this is interesting for you :
https://www.autodiva.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1997