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458 Toyo R888R tires

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  1. Nesch18

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    Has anybody ever mounted the Toyo R888R tires on the stock rear wheels? If yes what size and how did they feel?
     
  2. Il Co-Pilota

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    What car and why only rears? What are using the car for and what is on the front?

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    These are not available in a size close to the stock front tire. I want them for traction off the line.
     
  4. Il Co-Pilota

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    It is not advised to run this tyre on one axle only.

    What model car is it? 458 or 488/F8?

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  5. Il Co-Pilota

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    Right.

    Seeing that you have a 458, forget this one. It is not that great of a tyre to begin with.

    Get the Trofeo R. It is a better tyre and come in a good size.

    Use 245/35R20 front and 295/35R20 rear.

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  6. johnr265

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    R888 is terrible in the wet, have good grip in the dry until they don’t (which is way before the tread wears out), and give very inconsistent traction at that point. Agree, bad idea. Michelin PS4 (if street) can’t be beat for all around tire. You will be traction limited in this car regardless of tire. Learn to manage it with the throttle and enjoy the control near the limit.
     
  7. Il Co-Pilota

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    I think you meant to say MPS4S, yes? MPS4 is not a great shoe for the 458.

    Now despite my fondness for the MPS4S, there's a big difference in how well it hooks up compared to the Trofeo R regardless of temp in the dry. The Trofeo R is just that much more soft of a tyre. It's not like the Cup 2 that needs heat to outperform the MPS4S.

    I have tried the R888R a few times now(not R888), and for the price and type of tyre it is, one can do quite a bit better.
    Nankang AR-1, Trofeo R, and Cup 2 R are all better R compound tyres than both the R888R and the R888. Not sure what the hype about the R888R is, I don't see anything it does better than the others.
     
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    Yes, correct. Of course, not an R compound tire but I think unless you plan to track the car, R compound tires don't make a lot of sense for the street. They take a long time to get to optimal temp, and have a very narrow operating temp range as well unless you live in a very warm climate.
     
  9. Il Co-Pilota

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    Agree in many ways. I will say that on dry pavement, a Trofeo R still has more grip cold than a MPS4S. It is a VERY soft compound after all.
    The Cup 2 is a totally different story. It actually has a nice operating range, but it only comes on from about 55 C. But that is not an R compound.
    The MPS4S drops off like thrown from a cliff after about 50 C. Definitely not a track tyre.

    If the OP is looking for something that can be used for a bit of dragging, the Trofeo R is a viable option unless you want to go with a real DOT drag radial. I suppose the R888R in the 305/35R20 size can be used for a bit of dragging, but I personally think the Trofeo R is way better suited for this. The nice thing about the Trofeo R is also that it grips very well and it is available for all four wheels.

    But it looks like the OP is gone.
     
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    yup. A little bit of dragging. I think I’ll check out these Trofeos. I can’t find the trofeo r tires for the front though.
     
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