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  1. Beefcake2001

    Beefcake2001 Karting

    Dec 5, 2013
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    Hi
    I have a uk spec 2013 458 Spider, I am thinking of changing the wheels.
    I have found a second hand set complete with tyres and TPMS valves taken of a 2012 458 spider.

    The question is do i just fit these wheels and the car will automatically find the new sensors or do they have to be reprogrammed at a main dealers ?.

    I run BMW X6M as my daily and I know that system works via Bluetooth, so when I swap from winter to summer wheels the car just finds the new sensors and away you go. I had no trips to the dealer at all.
    Many thanks for any assistance.
     
  2. Motob

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    If the batteries are still good in the TPMS sensors on the second set of wheels, you should be able to just install them. Set the tire pressures to the correct spec, then recalibrate the TPMS system on the left dash menu and drive the car. After a short distance the system should recognize the sensors and display the tire pressures.
     
  3. Beefcake2001

    Beefcake2001 Karting

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    Many thanks for the information.
     
  4. Labman

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    Being that this topic was just brought up, I just got new rubber for my '11 458 Italia that still has original Bridgestones on it. I went with Michelin PS4S. Now my question is...do I change the TPMS while doing the tire change? They are original also as I see nothing on the service records indicating they were changed.
     
  5. vincep99

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    Very good question, and thanks for asking because I am about to put new tires on my 2011 and probably would have thought about the sensors a day later (i.e. too late).

    I know that I have had the tire shop check the battery strength of each sensor with the wheels still mounted, so I would imagine they can do it even more accurately with the tires off.
     
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  6. BlueIn2Red

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    Interesting, I wasn't aware that the sensors have batteries - approximately how long do these last please? My 2012 458 currently has an issue in that the TPMS won't calibrate - it says something like "TPMS temporarily inactive" after a couple of minutes of driving after I start the calibration procedure.
     
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  7. Labman

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    Not taking any chances. Mine 7 years old now. If I don’t do now then I have to pay for dismounting, balancing and mounting all over again if they start to fail. Expensive though...$830 for all four. Grrrrr


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  8. Motob

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    The first generation of TPMS sensors had batteries that lasted about 5 years. The second generation are supposed to be good for 7-8 years. The dealership can use the factory diagnostic computer to read the condition of the batteries. If your batteries are7 years old, then it is time to replace them.
     
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  9. Motob

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    Note that the recommended pressures for the Bridgestones are higher than those for the Michelins (read your owners manual). This means that the tire pressures on the door sticker will now be wrong (you can order a new sticker with the Michelin pressures or just use a label machine to change the old one) and ideally the TPMS system should reprogrammed for different tires, but they are so close that you don't really need to.
     
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  10. Labman

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    Great info. Thank you. Not sure if my 2011 has first or second gen but either way I’m either on borrowed time or they are on their way out. Now do I have to go with Ferrari units or can I order ones from TPMSdirect.com. OEM units about $200 each. Aftermarket (still made in Germany) $90 each. Any experience with these? I have a feeling the OEM units carry a huge Ferrari tax. [emoji848]


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  11. R8 BKK

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    Ferrari part number 282189 sensors are Huf/Beru RDE011 so perfectly OK to use the OEM ones rather than Ferrari branded. They are Gen 2 with approx. 7 years battery life.
     
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  12. Labman

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    Thanks! Amazing the price difference.


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  13. action-ant

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    When I search for Huf RDE011, I see quite a few results for the TPMS sensors, for various vehicle models. Does it matter which sensor to get or will they all work the same?
     
  14. Labman

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    Seems like many makes used the same brand. Ferrari didn’t make these. They were just re-branded with the Cavallino printed on them. All made in Germany.


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  16. Labman

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    If you go on Ricambi USA and look at pics of the Ferrari brand units, they look identical to the RDE011 from TPMSdirect.com


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  17. Labman

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    Just had these installed with my new Michelin PS4S tires. I reset the tire pressure setting to “calibrate” and within about a mile of driving, they started transmitting the tire pressures. 1/2 the price of Ferrari branded units.


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  18. Patek

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    I need new set. Was quoted $1200 at the dealer.
     
  19. Labman

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    I was quoted $830 installed at my indie shop for the Ferrari units. These cost me $366. For all four shipped.


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  20. Sean@TAG

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    We can get these to you all for $275 a set shipped! Available in both silver, or black!
     
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  21. Continental AutoSports

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    Please know, with Ferrari TMPS, the part number is almost as important, if not more, than anything else. Granted MHz play a key factor but sizes and functionality vary depending on the FERRARI part number. You can have two TPMS that are both 433MHz but if the Ferrari part numbers aren't the same, inevitably, you'll run into fitment/compatibility issues. Your vin and assembly number are the main factors in distinguishing what TPMS should be used.
     
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  22. Sean@TAG

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    Exactly. This is why our TPMS orders typically require a VIN.
     
  23. Labman

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    Wish you would have posted this just a couple of weeks earlier. Oh well.


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  24. Sean@TAG

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    Sorry about that! Next round!
     
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