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TR belt service needed badly.

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by kogmachine, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. kogmachine

    kogmachine Rookie

    Aug 5, 2016
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    My dad bought an '86 TR a few years ago, and it's in dire need of a timing belt service. He tells me it has 44k miles and it's been 17 years since the last engine out service. The previous owner stored it in an air conditioned garage, but these belts are way past the recommended service life. He only drives it to car shows.

    We live in Toledo, OH and my dad knew an exotic car mechanic, but he has since fallen into poor health and no longer operates his shop.

    Does anyone know of another independent Ferrari mechanic in Toledo, OH? Should he trailer it up to Cauley's in Detroit? How feasible is it to do the repair ourselves? He says he has a repair manual on disc, and he's a mechanic himself, but no experience with a Ferrari before.
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    You might want to cross post in the Ohio area section for other recommendations for service

    I guess whether to do it yourself boils down to whether based on your experiences with the belt a couple of years ago do you feel up to doing a job that is way more complex & critical ? There's always nuances that only experience can give
     
  3. MerlinTech

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    I sent you a PM. Looking forward to helping you in the right direction.
     
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  4. RedNeck

    RedNeck F1 Rookie
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    Lived in Toledo for 10+ years, only saw 1 TR there, yellow, owned by a Doctor who was dating a friend's mom. Also owned a Mondial. Have any pictures of this beast?
     
  5. vincep99

    vincep99 Formula 3
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    I did my own when I had my 88.5 TR. I have done a lot of engine rebuilds, but like greyboxer said, the TR's have nuances that I did not know about. Ended up taking it to Cauley, they did a great job for less money than I expected. Well worth it
     
  6. tbakowsky

    tbakowsky F1 World Champ
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    If your dad is a mechanic, then the tr timing belt change should be a walk in the park. Get past the name on the hood, it's really not a difficult job. Just time consuming.
     
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  7. Ingenere

    Ingenere F1 Veteran
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    I had an '87 and did 2 majors on the car myself. The biggest PIA was pulling the engine. Other than that, it was pretty straight forward. Just get a list of what is part of the major and do it.
     
  8. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    Columbus has a Ferrari dealer/mechanic
     
  9. Veedub00

    Veedub00 F1 Rookie
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    I did my own belt service. It takes 3 times longer to do it yourself. But way cheaper.


    http://www.evansauto.com
    These guys are great.

    If you want to talk face to face about it, I'm driving through Toledo on Sunday and driving back on Friday. I can stop by and talk to your pops about doing it yourself.
     
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  10. Veedub00

    Veedub00 F1 Rookie
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    I have a cradle you can use too.
     
  11. kogmachine

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  12. GTS Bruce

    GTS Bruce Formula Junior

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    Look up NJB automotive independent Ferrari shop. Can do full restorations. Westerville (columbus) Ohio.614-891-5678. When my car needs major work I send it there from WNY. You can drop t off or they can pick it up. Had my major done there and also needed a transmission rebuild due to a 6th gear failure.
    GTS Bruce 575M
     
  13. GTS Bruce

    GTS Bruce Formula Junior

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    BTW Jack Babbit of NJB has a TR
     
  14. 335s

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    early car, subject to lots of updates/upgrades/revisions/improvements...do your research beforehand is my advice. As others have said, the grunting is considerable, but the skill level required-you'll be fine- it isn't anything like setting the pre-load and backlash for the pinion shaft and crown wheel in the transaxle in this thing...that's for almost certain, beyond your skillset....
    the wiring is pretty sketchy in TRs at this age/life cycle, so be sure to proof your fuel pumps relays' circuits before you try and fire it up...
    FWIW-its worth going to the specific forum on these cars and reviewing some of the subcategory(I think they call them "stickys?") topic/threads which pertain to your car-particularly the failure issues involving the ZF LSD unit cover-this is a biggie and worth at least consideration... since the "package" will be out.
    Failure-when it happens(it is no longer an "IF", but a "WHEN"), is typically catastrophic...
    Enjoy
     

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