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TR Video... how to bust your tranny....

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  1. MannyGMT2

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  2. Frari

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    Some poor innocent will probably buy this car one day and have it go wrong on him. This bloke should be beaten with a stick.
     
  3. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    His car. He can do as he likes. It is funny to me though because the exact same thing happened to so many cars when they were new and now everytime one breaks the owner swears it never happened to his.



    Right.
     
  4. 512bbnevada

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    #4 512bbnevada, Sep 30, 2008
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    I had an old video on Ferrari from the 80s and they interview the head factory test driver driving the first gen TR he`was doing constant burn outs with it, I am sure the dealers did it with the`cars as well so its easy to understand how many were beat on then when new, the diff flaw was not well known unless those that worked on them every day. I have a mechanic I know thats repairing my 930 who worked on these cars and acccording to him the Ferraris that really had hard lives and were beat on were the 308s then
     
  5. James_Woods

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    Thanks Brian - I was already so paranoid that I do walkaway starts with just an idle throttle.

    But that made me feel a lot better.
     
  6. Rifledriver

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    Never saw it happen by dealer people but when the cars were new they were a commodity and many were flipped. How do you think many first owners treated them when they knew they would have it for only a month?

    Same thing happened to 288's.

    Most were driven like they were stolen by several owners before they found a home.
     
  7. ferraripete

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    me too...no reason to try to be a hero.
     
  8. northern frog

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    But the point is the tranny did NOT break. Makes you wonder how much of this "the diff is really weak" is just a myth. Any one bothered trying to quantify what percentage break down?
     
  9. Etcetera

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    It's no myth...
     
  10. James_Woods

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    Well, probably somebody like Rifledriver or another consultant will want to set me straight on this -

    But I think transmission breakage is a kind of random thing brought on by severe and probably repeated stress.

    One burnout is not the same as another burnout...I suppose that if you were on low traction surface and just got them spinning with little shock, it might not be so bad. Later, you might try it again and about 5 yards out hit a really dry high traction spot - or it might go 10 times, etc. Also, maybe it will set up a stress crack that is bound to fail later:

    The first TR I looked at felt to have a perfectly normal shift (about 52K miles), but the owner was driving it about a month later, and just pulled into a toll booth and shifted down into first. Clank - crunch. Transaxle - diff and first gear. I don't know if he had left something spinning in there or not, but it shelled it without a burnout.

    Let's face it - with that dogleg first back and left, this is never going to be a drag car anyway. The implications are obvious for anybody who wants to preserve one of these and still be able to drive it 10 or more years from now.

    IMHO, James
     
  11. jselevan

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    I am sure everyone has seen this video of a BBC broadcast. Apparently Ferrari tests the cars at the factory to see where the failure mode is. I suspect they did the same with the Boxer series.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLcKnv1-kE

    Jim S.
     
  12. Wade

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    That's one of my favorite Ferrari videos, except the ending of course :(
     
  13. Rifledriver

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    No myth.

    Driveline failures are like lung cancer or heart disease. The cigarette you smoked just before you dropped over dead is not the one that killed you. It was the prior 20,000.


    I have blown 3 rear ends to pieces. 2 went very gently leaving a stop. One happened during a very slow, gentle u turn. Those events were not the ones that broke the rear ends.
     
  14. BJF

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    Have to agree...no myth. But how do you fix the problem? Or do you keep detonating rear ends to prove a point? Not trying to be an instigator, but mine has just shown its weakness. I have to rebuild or fix the problem...somehow.
     
  15. MannyGMT2

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    ok, i have to admit, this is a beautiful TR burnout... revs ups the engine ....lets the wheel spin... then shifts to 2nd gear with traction... two nice black marks on the floor... sweet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQK8PF-fq4
     
  16. bjwhite

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    I say hey...at least he was getting enjoyment out of it.... just a car you know. I thought those videos were great. Great to see someone thrashing about in one. Better than a garage queen anyday.
     
  17. James_Woods

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    Right - waste em. They aint no good anyway.
     

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