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Track Car for Under $50k

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  1. Steveinfl

    Steveinfl Karting
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    That looks perfect. Mind sharing the mods you've done? Thanks!
     
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  3. jazztrip

    jazztrip Karting

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    Sure. The previous owners made numerous performance mods including:

    BGB Guard LSD for PDK
    BGB PDK trans cooler
    BGB Cargraphic catless race headers (wrapped)
    BGB Cargraphic race axle pipes and 2.5"magnaflow race exhaust
    IPD race plenum w/GT3 TB
    Softronic 'Race' tune with Durametric cable for tuning/scanning
    LED sequential shift light
    Wevo transmission mounts
    Tarrett front GT3 swaybar and links
    Tarrett rear swaybar and links
    Moton club sport custom suspension with AST caster/camber plates and rear mounts.
    750 lb springs front, 850 lb rear
    GT3 brake master cylinder
    Front GT3 brake ducts
    Rear 997tt brake ducts
    Bulletnose wheel studs
    Ducktail rear spoiler
    Momo steering wheel with custom paddle shifters

    In addition, I added some safety and data logging mods:

    Tarrett four-point rollbar
    Momo Daytona races seats (driver and passenger)
    Schroth six-point harnesses (driver and passenger)
    NRG 2.5 steering wheel quick release
    AIM SoloDL hard-wired to CAN bus and connected to AIM SmartyCamHD

    I run Sebro slotted brake rotors and various pads including PFC08, Gloc and, most recently, Ferodo DS1.11 and Castrol SRF fluid.
    I also run Bridgestone RE-71R tires (255 front/275 rear) on CCW race classics (18x8.5/18x10)
     

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  4. jazztrip

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  5. Steveinfl

    Steveinfl Karting
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    Wow - this is amazing...it's like a perfect recipe. Thanks so much!!
     
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  8. LivingthedreamBAB

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    +1 on Cayman S. I’ve owned three of them. One off the shelf new, one full prepped track car, and now a clubsport. Can’t beat the handling of a Cayman for the money. You won’t be the quickest in a straight line but will catch almost anything in the corners. Buy a 987S, add some safety, and add Stoptech ST60/40 calipers to keep your running cost down and you should be good to go

    Also +1 on trailering to the track of at all possible. I’ve had to lend trailers out to too many people who’s car broke down at the track and they were stuck getting back home.

    Be safe, have fun!


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  9. vdm9

    vdm9 Karting

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    So I will throw the contrarian view in here. I will qualify this by saying I own many cars including the ones mentioned here for track toys - cayman, lotus, corvette, 911s, etc . All excellent cars, and very different. For a change, I just purchase a VW Golf GTI that we are modifying for the track after much research. Mods are inexpensive, light car, great handling, New car 25k and even with 25k in mods which I don't think is possible, you are under budget with a dependable car. It just depends how serious you are with your mods, needs and skills.
    My two cents
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  10. LivingthedreamBAB

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    If you truly push the car (you are in the top run group and in the upper half of that group speed wise) you will break that car very quickly but many of the things that commonly break can be repaired at the track. Make sure you carry a few extra axle shafts and are familiar with changing them. Also you need to constantly monitor your subframe as many people at events have had failures in GTI subframes. Also as I’m sure you know there are major overheating issues with these when really pushed. But, with all this said from someone in the lower to middle run groups running a street tire the GTI is a fine car. Either way there is no such thing as a cheap track weekend but it’s the most fun you can have with your clothes on!


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  11. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Well being a married guy being on track is way cheaper than anything you can do with clothes "off." But it is kinda silly to limit the track car to $50k. The car is the cheap part! I'll be racing at CoTA next weekend.

    round trip for racecar $2900
    CoTA garage for 2 700 ea
    plane ride 450
    hotel 300
    race registration 800
    race tires 1800
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    $7000 no race gas, no food, no other disposables, nothing breaks. Anyone who races knows this is a cheap weekend if you can get away under $10k.
     
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  13. LivingthedreamBAB

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    Haha. I will say though true “racing” vs DE events are night an day different in costs. Probably double the cost to per weekend for a race vs DE. But I do still spend around $3000 a weekend for just a DE. (Half set of tires, full set of front race pads, fuel, entry fee, transport to event, hotel, etc. all add up quickly!)


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  14. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Well it depends. You certainly can drive to a HPDE locally and not have shipping fees. And you can track on 30,000mile street tires for more life. The 200twr tires of today are awesome and cheap!!! I race so little in the rain that I'm thinking of just keeping a set of 200twr's to use as an inter and rain tire. I have a brand new set of hoosier rains that I have not put on track in 4 years! I guess I'm just that lucky. I'm not racing a really heavy 3700lb mustang GT and I'm destroying hoosier race tires down to the cords in a weekend! I've never had wear this bad on lighter cars. And that is not a camber or toe problem Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  15. vdm9

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    Agree !00% !!!
    Parts are super cheap and the new intercoolers do a great job of the heat issue. I just wanted to offer an alternative to the others...
    All of these cars are fun!!! And I am in no way a top tier guy wrt racing! I am too chicken, just out for a good time! Clothes on or off!
    HA
    vdm
     
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    That should read 100%!!!
    vdm
     
  17. jag-oo-r

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  18. luccio

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    Hello,
    There are some good advice here and if you want to track with the thrill of a high rev V8 (this is a Ferrari forum!) then the E90/E92 M3 is also a good tracker. Heavier than most of the cars listed but not necessarily less efficient. At Laguna Seca driving a friend's E90 I was lapping close to my same laps with a new 911 S.

    Best,
    Luccio
     
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  19. Metastable

    Metastable Formula Junior

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    Surprised no one mentioned a Mustang. These guys will often have sorted vehicles for sale.
    https://www.fordperformanceracingschool.com/

    Personally, I much prefer to have a vehicle (van or truck) that can bring my track toy to the track..... that’s why I would stick with a cart or motorcycle. Get a truck, some ramps, and super cheap consumables... and if it breaks down you can still get home. Plus you have easy mobility to get to many tracks. It would be fun for you to drive Mid-Ohio..... but not fun having to find a way to get a wadded street car back home.
     
  20. boxerman

    boxerman F1 World Champ
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    elige
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    4c

    of those in stock street form the 4c is closest to a hard core track car in feel, and will feel quickest.
    howver if youre ok with some mods
    An elige can be 300hp easy and with ohlins sublime, its also inexpensive to run, durable.and feels ever bit the race car.
    boxster is a bigger heavier car and close to stock slow, \
    spend more buy a used gt4.

    for under 50k street legal go elige or 4c if you can find one that low.
    everything else will feel big and heavy.

    or tubo miata
     
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  21. jag-oo-r

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    Is the elige some sort of hybrid of the Elise and the exige? I haven't heard of an elige?

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  22. boxerman

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    #44 boxerman, Mar 1, 2021 at 4:50 PM
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    an elige refers to an Elise or exige
    They’re essentially the same car. The differences stock are supercharger and some bodywork.
    Many prefer to start with an Elise it’s slightly lighter and the aftermarket supercharger setups are superior plus if you’re doing shocks etc it makes no difference which one you start with.

    some exiges came stock with a. Lot of good bits . but they cost way more and for less you can build up a faster Elise.
    How much power they have, suspension etc that depends on a specific car hence the term elige cause they’re essentials one.

    Fastest one I drove was an 06 Elise with inter cooled supercharger from BOE I think it was northof 300hp atbrue wheels but was not pesky like some others. It could just chew through the gears in any gear smoothly.
    Many like Nitron shocks I prefer online.

    look at inokinetoc website, it gives a good idea of what’s available for these cars
    Also BOE engineering.
    Best to start with a stock or close to stock car and as your skills and desire increases keep adding to it.

    my Elise is bone stock, no supercharger, just baffled oil pan rotors and harnesses and has great balance, favorite car ever, it does it all. Track road weekends etc. all it’s needed is pads fluids and sometimes rotors. Pads will last something between 20-39 hard track days, that’s 5x a cayman, and rotors last seasons not weeks. Lightness has it virtues.

    I also have a track only exigie v6 cup but that’s a mean animal more like gt3 performance and in many ways not as sweet as a 4cyl elige/
     
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  23. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Agree
    I built up an 05 Elise to a track monster, supercharger, Ohlins suspension, CF everything and eventually a roll cage.
    Agree funnest car ever!
    Then moved to a 211 for track duty.
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  24. boxerman

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    the 4cyk elige platform is simply a sweet running and handling car.

    everyting that made a classic British roadster great in a modern mid engines platform that’s light and robust.

    short of a Renault r5 Turbo 2 there it is the best steering road legal car ever made.

    an Elise is one of the few cars I know of that works out the box on track. A gt3 and a 4c are two others.

    I was not convinced about the 4c untill I drove one on track. Yes As the mags say it was twitchy at the limit, which maybe is part of its charm. Yes it relied on electronics a lot to stay in shape. But it simply cornered flat in a way only dedicated track cars normally do, there was practically no road cat mush, the brakes were great and the ower felt really strong through the gears.
    The letdown was very heavy feeling and slow steering, at least comoared to an elige.

    I have no idea about the reliability and durability of the 4c but as a 50k purchase to drive to and on Track it would be pretty top of my list.

    still as we know an elige will happily do 59k track mikes with nary a complaint and I know of one over 100k with about 25k of those on track. You can’t beat a really stiff chassis and Toyota power train
     
  25. jag-oo-r

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    ahhh.... that makes sense.
     

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