Tracking the 458 Italia

The one thing I would be concerned about are those CCBs. Naturally, brakes are a normal wear item. However, replacement for accelerating the wear would be in nose bleed territory.

 

Done all that before mate. I wouldn't say I'm a great driver by any stretch but done trackdays all over the uk and Europe. My previous cars were a modified for track bmw csl and the mk2 gt3 rs. I know how they fair on track, they are rock solid, you could go out at 9am and come in only when the tand runs dry. My question is if I do that with the 458 will it fall to bits ? Will the brakes hold up ? Last thing I want to do is screw the ccb's. In regards to tyres I've done a geo as before they were burning the edges and I need to get through these pirellis so it can put something decent on. Suspension ? Anything else ?

Suppose all I'm asking is will this car like the track or should I be more gentle with her than my previous cars. Considering a weeks tracking around slain , Ibiza too next year.

 

The car will last, just be on top of maintenance,

Ferrari runs the Ferrari Driving Experience up at Mont Tremblant, which is a pretty demanding circuit on a car. I've been their to watch my wife take this three times....this course basically keeps the same set of drivers and pro instructors bombing around the track every day.

Entire time we were there, saw ONE car with an issue (threw a code). They do go through tires and pads very often, and do full brake bleeds and a good go-round on each car, each night.

What kills CCB's in track use is the ESC and CST, especially the rear brakes. FWIW I have 4500km on my 458C this year, I am a 1,000psi+ braker and still on original rotors.

What pressures were you running your tires? that wear issue sounds like it was more inflation than tire or setup.

 

Thank you for the response. It was not the pressures, it was the geo. Ferrari set these car up quite rightly for understeer or safe, however on. Track that just kills tyres. I'm not so worried about brake pads, it's the ccb's I'm more concerned about. I did over 22k miles in my gt3rs and the disks at the end were totally fine, went though 3 sets of pads though.

 

Entropy, what manettino setting is best for track use? CST off, or everything off, or race? Is the car very twitchy on track with everything off?

 

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Just enjoy it on track as long as you keep on top of maintenance as many people said. You will definitely go through tyres and brake pads a lot. The only real issue that you might have with tracking it very often (I mean once or twice a month) is the possible cost of having to replace the carbon disks.

In terms of settings it depends on your driving capabilities and how much on the edge you want to be. IMO race or possibly CST off is more than enough for 99% of drivers.

 

How much slip do you get with cst off ?

 

this would be a good (heavily debated) thread in the Race/Tracking section

My views...

The car is very solid or planted; it only gets squirrelly where it should, or you make it (eg. maximum braking, into ABS, or heavy throttle with the car bound up on exit), even with everything turned off (note - "off" means you still have the E-Diff, ABS and some stability control active....).

I advise my friends to start in Sport, get comfortable, then go to Race - while those settings can use up rear pads and tires a bit more quickly, those are also cheaper than putting the car off.

With everything turned off, the car lets you do more - eg. wheelspin under power (easy to do, this car has torque), get the car rotated more aggressively, and float the exits a bit. Depending on the track and your skill (comfort?) level, that may get you a few tenths or more, but again, it's a road car...