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  1. alx355gt

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    #26 alx355gt, Dec 15, 2004
    Yes, fines are a bit crazy in Belgium...
    It's better not to get caught!

    Remember I got a ticket with the rented F355 Spider last summer...
    Luckily NOT for speeding, although I got away with it safely a few times... Joren, Bert, remember the last fast tunnel we took in Brussels that night? That was a real close one... Luckily they couldn't register the speed or follow us... Pfeuw!

    No, I got a ticket in the city of Antwerp the first night... Had to pay 50euro for honking the Ferrari-horn!!! :rolleyes:
    Ok, the amount of money wasn't a big deal, even cheaper than a fuel fill up... but still... stupid waiste of money for some jealous cops!
     
  2. Dutchman

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    #27 Dutchman, Dec 15, 2004
    50 euro for honking the horn??????
     
  3. alx355gt

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    #28 alx355gt, Dec 15, 2004
    Indeed! Crazy isn't it?
    Guess those cops were a bit frustrated?
    My first ticket with a Ferrari... :) I kept it as a souvenir :D
     
  4. flyingboa

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    #29 flyingboa, Dec 16, 2004
    I wish you it is the last!! No tickets with YOUR Ferrari (I am still vergin in that sense!!!)
     
  5. trevi

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    #30 trevi, Dec 16, 2004
    you lucky guy, you!
     
  6. Wolfgang

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    #31 Wolfgang, Dec 16, 2004
    Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease, lets go back topic.
    I dont want to talk about or think about how much I have spent for tickets, fine & tips;) in 2004:(
     
  7. Dino 208gt4

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    #32 Dino 208gt4, Dec 16, 2004
    Ferrari speed tickets?? No.........still a virgin!! :)

    But please don't talk about the tickets I got with Alfa's and Volkswagens :(
     
  8. Dutchman

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    #33 Dutchman, Dec 16, 2004
    Can somebody post the Dutch speeding fines?
     
  9. trevi

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    #34 trevi, Dec 16, 2004
    the schengen treaty says (reduced to one sentence), that the member states provide legal enforcement assistance to each other, but the offendant may not be punished more than when his offence would have happened in his home country. this is only valid for fines, not for prison sentences and revocals of licenses.

    so it would be cool to have a list of rules and sanctions for each country.

    another topic is the revocal of licenses. this is regulated in a EU treaty dated 1998, but i don't know how many countries already have ratified it. this needs further investigations.

    and of course, there are still bilateral treaties between several countries.
     
  10. stradale88

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    #35 stradale88, Dec 16, 2004
    Do you really want to know? If you think the Belgian fines are high....

    km/h - euro
    0-10 - 30
    11-15 - 45
    16-20 - 70
    21-25 - 100
    26-30 - 125
    31-35 - 205
    36-40 - 240
    41-45 - 270
    46-50 - 300
    51-55 - 365
    56-60 - 420
    61-65 - 465
    66-69 - 520
    >69 normally you will be prosecuted and the judge will decide, but I don't know what will happen to foreigners. I think the police officer will speak to the prosecutor, who will then decide what the fine is going to be. You can rest assure it's going to be quite an onslaught on your wallet!

    Note that the fines around here will be higher when you speed at a section of road where there's a restriction because of roadworks.

    km/h - euro
    0-10 - 55
    11-15 - 90
    16-20 - 115
    21-25 - 145
    26-30 - 170
    31-35 - 225
    36-40 - 255
    41-45 - 280
    46-50 - 325
    51-55 - 390
    56-60 - 455
    61-65 - 520
    66-69 - 550
    > 69 same as above

    When you bring your Fcar to the Netherlands, make sure you bring a lot of cash as well, because I think that's the only payment the police accept.
     
  11. Dutchman

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    #36 Dutchman, Dec 16, 2004
    No Roland,

    They drive with you to a bank if necessary! :)
     
  12. Dutchman

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    #37 Dutchman, Dec 16, 2004
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  13. alx355gt

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    #38 alx355gt, Dec 16, 2004
    Thanks Eugenio, I hope so too... :)
    By the time I buy a Ferrari, fines will probably be even higher than today!



    Mail like that is never welcome... but I guess we'll all receive one of those every now and then... or sooner or later...

    I noticed that you have to pay 55 euro for going 144 in a 120 zone... but the info in Roland's post says, a "violation" like that should cost you 100?
    Or is it cheaper in this case because the car is registrated in Belgium and your handled as a "foreigner"?

    Note that the same situation would have cost 175 in Belgium...
     
  14. Dutchman

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    #39 Dutchman, Dec 16, 2004
    I think that prices have gone up!
     
  15. trevi

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    #40 trevi, Dec 16, 2004
    before any of you complains, wait till i have the time to publish the swiss figures!
     
  16. Wolfgang

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    #41 Wolfgang, Dec 16, 2004
    :D...I remember;)
    Swiss is without any doubt in the top-ten!
     
  17. trevi

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    #42 trevi, Dec 16, 2004
    ok, here we go (all figures in CHF, 1 CHF is approx. 0.66 EUR):

    parking fines:

    40-120

    speeding fines:

    1. urban areas (speed limit 50 km/h or less):
    + 1-5 km/h: 40.-
    + 6-10 km/h: 120.-
    + 11-15 km/h: 250.-
    more: criminal prosecution, fine depending on income, revocal of license

    2. country side (speed limit 80 km/h or less) and special roads (speed limit 100 km/h):

    + 1-5 km/h: 40.-
    + 6-10 km/h: 100.-
    + 11-15 km/h: 160.-
    + 16-20 km/h: 240.-
    more: criminal prosecution, fine depending on income, revocal of license

    3. highways (speed limit 120 km/h or less):

    + 1-5 km/h: 20.-
    + 6-10 km/h: 60.-
    + 11-15 km/h: 120.-
    + 16-20 km/h: 180.-
    + 21-25 km/h: 260.-
    more: criminal prosecution, fine depending on income, revocal of license

    alcohol limit: 0.5 promille (1.1.2005): immediate revocal of license, fine depending on income.

    redlight: 250.-, revocal of license

    other common mistakes: 100.-

    taking over right side:
    - urban areas: 140.-
    - other areas: revocal of license, fine depending on income.

    how's that?!
     
  18. enzo360

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    #43 enzo360, Dec 16, 2004
    Trevi,
    that's looks ......:( As Wolgang said definately top 10, wonder who's on number 1.
    Jurgen
     
  19. Wolfgang

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    #44 Wolfgang, Dec 16, 2004
    "fine depending on income"

    Häää please?????
    How the hell do they know what I earn each month??????
    Thats way pretty strange:(
     
  20. enzo360

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    #45 enzo360, Dec 16, 2004
    Trevi,
    you mentioned : other commom mistakes:
    here are a couple examples of 'common' fines from Belgium

    Some minimumfines ruled in court
    violation, before ,from 1 sept.
    Parking on busstop, pedestrian crossing lines, … 50 € 275 €
    Car registration paper not in the car 50 € 275 €
    Increasing speed while been taken over 50 € 275 €
    Abnormal low speed 50 € 275 €
    Not following the rules for rally’s 50 € 550 €
    Taking over on the right hand side 250 € 550 €
    Jurgen
     
  21. trevi

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    #46 trevi, Dec 16, 2004
    for foreigners it's a high estimate if you get caught directly (guess what happens to a ferrari driver!), if it goes to court, it's the income in the tax declaration for swiss people, don't know about foreigners.
     
  22. Wolfgang

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    #47 Wolfgang, Dec 16, 2004
    Jurgen,
    whats the deal?
    There is a biiiig difference between 50,- and 250,-
    Needs to be discussed with the officer on the road???
     
  23. Wolfgang

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    #48 Wolfgang, Dec 16, 2004
    OK tax decleration sounds good:D
    But why the hell is it more expensive for foreigners?????
    Thats not cool & friendly!
    We are guests/travellers and we bring the cash!
     
  24. enzo360

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    #49 enzo360, Dec 16, 2004
    The first number was the fine before 01/09/04, the second after 1 september 2004. These are numbers who have already been ruled in court.
    Jurgen
     
  25. Wolfgang

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    #50 Wolfgang, Dec 16, 2004
    Thanks, I stay & drive in Germany;)
    Whats up with your economy?
    Do they want to field the losts with speed-tickets?
     
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