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Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by wlanast, Jun 12, 2009.

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  1. AHudson

    AHudson F1 Rookie
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    Whoa, I go out of town for a couple days and - boom! - the TR vs Boxer debate lights up!

    I drove the same 210 mile round trip in the Boxer and the TR, both in about the same Alabama heat. (Our summers are basically set to "broil" on the dial). I mentioned the TR experience here:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245698&highlight=barber

    But on the 'comfy' issue, no doubt the TR is the better road car. Keep in mind here, the car is 10 years newer, plus the air works, which are both good things. Ergonomics in the TR are better for sure. Far as driving position comfort, that's about a toss up. I"m sure the TR seats are 'better' far as design goes, but the Boxer seats do me fine.

    Driving dynamics (not race car, but road car) are better in the Boxer. It just has a lightness of feel, easier steering, and a more nimble feelling. I keep saying 'feeling' because I know the TR is the faster around Fiorano, but the TR is a heavier car, and though the later TRs are 300 lbs lighter than the earlier cars, you can shake that feeling of heft.

    Funniest thing on the trip with the cars is that the Boxer stood out to a few other travellers, the TR stood out to everybody. The Boxer has the more classic look (more tasteful to my eye) but th TR is like "The aliens have landed and they're on I-85!".

    Far as the "drive it or trailer it" debate that got underway, I used to drive whatever, whenever, wherever, with WAY less concern or even knowledge of potential breakdown. Now I think about it too mcuh.

    Guess if I was going past about 3 hours out one way, I might trailer. If someone MADE me choose either car in which to do that, it'd be the...
     
  2. parkerfe

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    #27 parkerfe, Jun 15, 2009
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    400 miles in a Boxer is a nice drive...I have done that in mine on several occasions with no issues. The trip to the FFQC was over 700 miles one way. To each his own I suppose. But, if you don't want to drive it, why not sell it to someone who does...
     
  3. James_Woods

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    I support the thinking of the original poster: Yes, I drive my car (Testarossa). It has been on two weekend trips so far of around 500 to 1000 miles. It has been driven in the rain several times and even once in the snow.

    But I mostly reserve the miles for this car to places where driving it is a pleasure rather than a means of getting somewhere.

    For example, when we get the cabin up in Colorada completely lined out, I may take it up to the mountains for a season to tour the great roads of that state. It will be transported there.

    I have no desire to slog it across a thousand miles of west Texas, Oklahoma, or the desert New Mexico (and back) just to cruise those Colorado mountains, however.

    I also appreciate the thought about getting your car safely stowed in the trailer...remember that sad case a few years back where somebody lost control of their trailer in the snow (while bringing a newly purchased car home for the first time) and ended up damaging the transmission (and also some body damage) because it was in gear and not tied down very well?
     
  4. parkerfe

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    One never knows what joy a particular road and the sites and people discovered along the way may bring until it is driven...I've had a blast driving on interstate trips as well as curvy mountain roads. In fact, the Boxer is much better suited to the interstate and nice state roads than it is to a curvy mountain road anyway...it is a GT car, not a sports car.
     
  5. Huskerbill

    Huskerbill F1 Rookie

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    I have to disagree on the "boring highway" comment. Highway 5 is actually pretty fun. You get the beauty of the mountains/hills and the flat open areas that allow you to open it up as you see fit. I haven't see many CHiP on 5 either compared to the other roads I drive (and I drive a lot of them).

    I think it would have been a FUN trip that would not have easily been forgotten.
     
  6. Rifledriver

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    Lots of roads between LA and the Bay. No need to take 5.
     
  7. Shamile

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    #32 Shamile, Jun 15, 2009
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    Dear Ferraristi,

    Ummm.....you're not going to be able to pick up hot chicks if the Ferrari is in a trailer.

    Well....Betty-May-Lou may think your truck is hot but she probably has a few "jelly rolls" hanging over her "Daisy Dukes"



    Shamile

    Freeze....Miami Vice !
     
  8. vincenzo

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    isn't that "a couple of Daisy Dukes hanging over her jelly roll"?

    Perhaps an open trailer would be a good compromise???

    Rgds,
    Vincenzo
     
  9. ArtS

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    OK, this thread has taken an ugly turn; no more jelly rolls please... ;)
     
  10. vincenzo

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    on I-5 they are in the air...

    at one time I used to live in Coalinga, trust me, I know....

    ;-)

    Rgds,
    Vincenzo
     
  11. wlanast

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    Vincenzo, Coalinga huh? I remember that bridge right there on the 5 that got wiped out by heavy runoff several years ago. Took forever to fix.

    The CHP was very visible both directions, up Thu afternoon/evening and back Sunday morning. My father in law lived in Lodi for years, and had more trips up on both 5 and 99 than I care to count. It can be beautiful, but I have also experienced the dust storms, tule fog, rain, and hail, that can make the trip a little dicey and hard on a vehicle. Summer is better, but it cooks out there in the valley.


    This was one of my questions and why I was very happy to have a knowledgeable commercial transporter there to advise the first time. I will try to take some pics tonight to show what we used for tie down points, but the way we did it was 4 straps to the lower control arms, straight on in front and crossed in back. I had heard that some strap through the wheels, but I was told you risk putting your wheels out of round and that the leveraging forces on the suspension parts on a more outbound tie down are greater. Just for drill, I chalked the floor once the car was tied down to see and small movement that I might not ordinarily notice , and it never moved after 900 miles.

    Curious to hear what others do.
    W
     
  12. vincenzo

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    117 deg F in the shade.

    but like you say - it has its highlights too

    these days, Tahoe is much more to my liking.

    Rgds,
    Vincenzo
     
  13. deichenb

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    I use straps over the wheels, but I have the benefit of my own enclosed trailer, which I have set-up for the car.

    I took the trailer and the car to a fabrication shop, drove the car in, and had some U-hooks bolted to the wooden floor for all 4 wheels. 3 hooks per wheel: one in front and back of each, and one to the far forward of the front wheels and far aft of the rears for the clutch with the straps.

    I bind 2 wheels for shorter trips and all 4 for longer ones. I think the over-the-wheel technique minimizes stress and strain on the wheels and the suspension components.

    Forza,
    David
     
  14. ross

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    are those image wheels you have on there? what sizes are they? what tire brand and size do you have on there?

    btw, see my targa thread to see what your bbi can do - 400 miles is a walk in the park.
     
  15. Forexpreneur

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    Sounds like you had fun none the less.
     
  16. ross

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    bump, any answers to those questions pls?
     
  17. Newman

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    speedlines
     
  18. wlanast

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    Sorry Ross,
    I should have those sizes memorized, but I'll have to look later. They are 17" Speedlines mounted with Pirelli PZeros. Obviously, the handling and ride characteristics are night and day compared to the original TRXs, which I still have mounted on the original wheels in storage.

    Your MM odyssey sounded incredible. Great description and thanks for sharing. In my experience, a well maintained BBi can be driven long distance with confidence.

    Best,
    William
     
  19. Newman

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    Today up here in the great white north its 95 degrees (in american temperature) plus humidity making it feel over 100. I didnt need my snow shoes today nor will I drive the boxer, its too hot out. I guess I could drive it with the windows up tight and the air on but how much fun would that be?
     
  20. AHudson

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    It would be awesome if either the windows or the air worked.

    I know, I know, your windows can slice sandwich meat ("Make mine Elk!" said the Canadian) but the ac on my car is less than pitiful. I think when I turn it on, a recording of a whirring noise is all that happens. It's 95 degrees here as well, so less than fun. I need the Dave Bendl upgrade something feirce.
     
  21. wlanast

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    #46 wlanast, Jun 24, 2009
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    Tire sizes:
    Front 245/45/17
    Rear 255/45/17

    I took some pictures of what I used as tie down points for those interested. Rears attached to the rearmost portion of the lower control arm where it attached to the frame rail. They were crossed. The front was attached to the rearmost portion of the front lower control arms at the frame rail and were in line to avoid any possible alignment "adjustments".
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