TRIBUTE TO THE CHALLENGE STRADALE

When the Challenge Stradale made its debut in North America in 2004 (2003 in Europe), Automobile magazine awarded it 2004 car of the year; CNN money.com called it a true investment vehicle; and it attracted a huge number of enthusiasts. And so, this post compiles various impressions, survey results, and test data as a tribute to the Challenge Stradale, with the full expectation that the CS is becoming a classic in its own time.

Astonishing Driver Quotes:

While car reviewers and journalists were generally smitten by the CS – just as they are by the Scuderia today – it’s the perceptions of experienced Ferrari owners that carries so much weight. Here are four rather astonishing quotes, most within the last year.

#1: “I have a CS and Enzo. I can drive the CS faster on very tight roads because of the shorter wheelbase, and its sound is more stimulating than the Enzo. I call the CS a "baby Enzo" because it was made at the same time, shares many parts, and does nearly everything the same except acceleration and it's a weaker people magnet. BTW, the people I know who collect Ferraris (i.e., 10 or more cars) MUST have a CS in their collection and the ones I've spoken to say it's one of their favorite Ferraris. It's a great car for the street. The Enzo is a little too powerful for the street as you can't really get into the power for more than a few seconds.” (posted by Bill S)

#2: “I do have some nice Ferraris and other nice cars.” (including F40, Enzo, CS, Maranello, 365GT4/BB, 512BBm). The CS is as far as I am concerned one of the most fun cars to drive. The European version has a sound that is beyond anything that you can imagine. The American version also has a great sound. Let me put it this way: the CS is more fun to drive than the Enzo and the F40, period, Go for the CS”.. I have driven both cars quite a few times, both on the street and on the race track.” (posted by Emena)

#3: “I have a CS, GT3 RS, Ruf Turbo R and CGT. I find myself faster in the CS on tight courses because of the paddle shifters, better visibility, and smaller lighter-feeling car. It's really hard work to drive a GT3 RS and CGT as fast, but you can if you want to sweat it. If I want to really show off on the turns, I'll usually choose the CS. It is a Challenge Car for the Street! “
#4: “I have quite alot of track time in 360 modena, F430, 599 and the CS. The CS wins hands down, it is as fast or faster than a 430 on most tracks and alot, I repeat that, ALOT more fun to drive. It feels much more like a race car and the experience is so much more intense and raw, and the sound...( posted by Jompen)

Striking Visuals:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, of course, but an uncanny number of people have commented the CS may be the best looking road going Ferrari of all time. Three polls reveal some striking results;

#1 Poll by Rob Lay: Percentage who said the following “looks best”: 430 (20%), Challenge Stradale (71.4%), about the same (8.6%)
#2 Poll by Vm3: Percentage who said the following were “best looking”: 430 (7.4%), 360 (11.4%), 355 (12.4%), Scuderia (20.6%), Challenge Stradale (48.2%).
#3 Poll by Britblaster: Percentage who said the following is “more beautiful”: Scuderia (33.3%), Challenge Stradale (66.7%).

Performance on Street & Track:

While the horsepower wars march on, the Challenge Stradale retains supercar performance largely due to its relatively high horsepower (425HP) to low weight ratio (2800lbs). As an article put it in, Evo 2009, ‘Ferrari’s engineers made the Stradale feel like a race-car for the road’. And it’s particularly well suited to short tracks with lots of tight turns.

Test data convey;

0-60 times, 4 seconds, as confirmed by Car & Driver, 2006
¼ mile time: 12.1 seconds with Launch Control activated, 12.4 without Launch Control
Lap times by Stig at Top Gear Track: 1.22.3 for CS, 122.9 for 430, and 1.19.7 Scuderia
Lap times at Hockenheim short track: 1.13 for CS, 1.127 for 430, 1.103 for Scuderia,
Ferrari tests at Ferrari’s own Fiorano test track;
-- Ferrari Scuderia, 123.9
-- Ferrari Enzo (2003), 1.24.9
-- Ferrari 599GTB, 126.5
-- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 1.26.5
-- Ferrari Scuderia Spider 16M, 126.5
-- Ferrari F50, 127.0
-- Ferrari F430, 1.27.0
-- Ferrari F430 Spider, 127.0
-- Ferrari F40 1.29.6
-- Ferrari 360 Modena 1.31.0
-- Ferrari 575M Maranello 1.31.5
-- Ferrari 550 Maranello 1.32.5
-- Ferrari 355, 134.0


Differences Between the CS from the 360, as well as other Ferraris:

Three key features distinguish the Challenge Stradale. First, in the quest to improve performance, the car is about 200 lbs. lighter than the 360 Modena due to weight saving materials, such as carbon fibre, as well as removal of selected creature comforts. Second, the driving experience is rawer, due to less sound insulation, for example in the wheel wells, and stiffer suspension. Third, the Stradale’s unique exhaust system emits a “banshee wail” under wide open throttle that’s truly exhilarating. The CS sounds as close to F1 racing as one might imagine, especially if street-legal hyperflow cats are installed.

In addition, a whole range of specifics differentiate the CS from the 360, including;

Front bumper
Rear bumper
Rear diffuser
Side skirts
Underbody tray (50% lighter than Modena)
Lexan back window with Carbon Fiber grills
Lexan side windows optional outside US
Windshield (purportedly is different than Modena)
Titanium lugs on the wheels
Titanium springs
Carbon Fiber door panels, sills, center console
Carbon Fiber seat shells
Carbon Fiber intake filter boxes
Carbon Fiber mirrors
Carbon Fiber panels (water shields) in engine compartment
Gas lid with polished cavallino
CCM brakes
19" Challenge style wheels
Pirelli Corsa tires
Low back pressure exhaust
Launch Control
Mass air flow sensor
Valve spring positioning
Claimed special engine component selection, machining and polishing
New engine and F1 transmission mapping firmware
Extra 90 kg of down force at 295 km/h with the same Cd
Used to homologate the 360GT race car
Different steering wheel
No carpets, internal sound control, no wheel-well insulation


Price and Collectability:

When the Challenge Stradale first arrived in the US, it carried a MSRP of $206,800. Until the recent financial turmoil, prices held amazingly firm in and around $180-$200K for a low miles car. By 2009, Stradale prices had understandably fallen but still at a “glacially” slow pace compared to other exotics, according to Evo 2009.. For example, by April, 2009, 7-8 Stradale’s with between 5-10K miles were listed for around $165-180K in the US. Cheaper cars can be found, but often with “stories”. If an excellent Stradale can be purchased at, say $170K, this implies an annual depreciation rate of only 3.6% between 2004 to the end of 2008. This compares with an annual depreciation rate of at least 10% for a 430 (priced at 200K in 2005, selling for $160K by end of 2008). And it compares with an annual depreciation rate of about 15-20% for a Porsche 997 Twin Turbo (priced at $135K in 2007, selling for $95K by April 2009).

Will Stradale prices bounce back? A predicted “yes” seems reasonable if (i) one assumes that prices will bounce back on houses, stocks, and expensive cars, (ii) if one acknowledges the limited supply of Stradales, with only 380 in North America, and 1280 worldwide, and (iii) if one is impressed by the Stradale’s credentials, as reported here.
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Cool Thread....

BTW, it will be more perfect w/ this pic. attached (one thing not seen on its descendant)
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Thanks for putting this together!

 

+1!

 

Informative...thanks for posting.

 

Thanks for that great write up!

 

Nicely done, stradale is one hell of a car.

 

Excellent post OP! Thank You.

 

Thanks for reminding everyone how great the Challenge Stradale was, is and will always be.
A modern day masterpeice.

 

Thanks for your time and effort..great tribute..

 

nice!

 

Thanks for posting that

 

So how come I'm having trouble selling my no stories pristine example??
See ebay Item number: 350188705499

 

Great thread.. two of the four intro quotes are mine! Thanks for digging those up!

The CS is also the fastest, least expensive and maybe the healthiest way to turn you into an instant rock star. Here we are at Bella Italia in San Diego, CA moving from the line-up (over 90 cars) to the winner's circle with 2nd prize in the late V8 category. First prize went to another CS!

Even the casual car enthusiasts love the CS when they see it!
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It likes you too much

 

LOL

 

anyone needing CS wheels? see my ferrari ad

Frans

 

The market is speaking, very few if any stradales are moving for north of 150kish. Thats just were the market is at now. I see this too in housing and apartment prices in the NY area. Buyers are here.......................BIG SPREAD..................................................and sellers are way over here holding onto last years prices. If you want to move your car price it realistically. BTW Beautiful CS with all the right opions too.

 

Exactly, real money on the car is about 30k less than the buy it now, maybe less. A sign of the times. If any one of the deals I had in the works the past 6 months had come through I would be making an inquiry on it.

 

It surprises me that CS owners seem to be in denial about where the market is TODAY for the cars.

 

More depreciation to come in the next few years - too many around, and lots of faster cars emerging - e.g. Scud, son of Scud etc. However, I agree that longer term they have reasonable investment potential. I'd love to have one - no question about that at all. Great car.

 

There would be a case of denial if someone absolutely had to sell the car, for example to pay off debts, but then held out for some seemingly impossible "reservation price" in a truly depressed market. But I suspect a lot of CS owners, including many retailers, aren't facing such financial pressures but are holding out for better times, the same way that wise, long term investors arn't dumping equities right now, convinced the market will rebound. I suspect there's an element of denial on both sides. Some sellers, hard pressed for cash, but holding out for higher prices, with denial on one side. And lots of potential buyers desperately wanting prices to plunge to a level where they can afford a nice CS, but in denial when they can't find one for a low fantasy price. Mostly, academic I suppose; time will tell.

 

LOL....Im not in denial and i bet 99% of CS owners are not in denial!! My car is worth more too me then the money i could get if i sold it!!! SO I WILL KEEP IT!!

Im pretty sure that is the way most CS owners feel who are keeping there cars.

 

i happen to agree with you .. i would love to have one over any of the modern ferraris and also I have to agree that the owners are not in denial ... is just what they go for. obviously you have the BLUE cars with 20k miles like one in miami that they are asking 159 but a red or yellow car with moderate miles will bring the full 180 just because there are not too many around so if you want it you have to pay for it. 430 ... on the other hand ... 30 to 40 any day of the week on e-bay any color any combo..
Meanwhile i will keep saving my pennies one day I will get it .. i just hope i don't run out of time !

 

That cannot be true, If this were the case then all the great Red/Black/Yellow/Blue cars sitting on ebay priced at 170-180 for the last 6 months if not longer would have sold already. Conclusion cars are overpriced for the current market.