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TRIBUTE TO THE CHALLENGE STRADALE

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  1. Modenafan

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  2. raw tubor

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    This tribute would hardly be complete without acknowledging the production of the unique Challenge Stradale surfboard. To my knowledge, no other Ferrari -- not even the revered Enzo -- has been honored thus, assuming one considers such a mimento to be an honor, of course!

    Limited to a production run of 425 surfboards worldwide -- corresponding the the Stradale's 425 HP -- the Challenge Stradale commemorative numbered surfboard boasts a Ferrari Red paintjob with a white and green strip down the middle of the board and emblazoned with the traditionally unmistakable Ferrari stallion logo. The surfboard was is only available at Decret of Beverly Hills. Decret 313 N. Beverly Dr. (310) 859-6655, at a cost of $5,000. It can now be purchased via ebay for around $3,500. See the following link http://www.nickthorn.com/surfboard.asp?ProductID=130.
     
  3. 360trev

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    #78 360trev, Apr 21, 2009
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    Jon, here's your answer... back to back pictures. This removal of the front carpets saves circa 13lbs [6kgs] but makes the storage space much less useful. The tyre foam and tool kit weigh in pretty heavy though, at around 22lkbs [10kgs]. The front compartment gel battery swapout also saves a further 22lbs [10kgs]. Already you've just shaved 57lbs [26kg's] off your strad without even trying so hard. Thats nearly a 1/4 of the strads entire weight savings programme in 3 easy steps.

    If your going to do this I'd definately recommend a corner weighting session and also advise fitting a titanium exhaust though to balance out the weight loss and save a further 57lbs [26kg's]. Now you've shed 114lbs [52kg's] and all you've done is swap the battery, strip the front compartment of all its frapperies (easily re-installed) and fit a ti exhaust. Remove the passenger seat and go for a more hardcore carbon seat for trackdays and you shed a further 20kg's, you've now just lost a total of ~160lbs [~72kg's] off your strad kerb weight. With these weight mods [which can all be put back to stock relatively easy] and a proper corner weighting of the adjustible suspension you'll be surprising quite a few Scud owners in the corners :)
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  4. Dilancer

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    Awesome thread :)
     
  5. Bill S

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    Yes, but does anyone remember the second person to break 4 minutes in the mile run? There is only one Challenge Stradale and it was the first and possibly last of its kind. Even the Scuderia is not as raw, at Ferrari's own admission (some quote I think I read in Evo magazine). Too many good clients didnt like the extreme "rawness" of the CS.
     
  6. TG

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    Perfect way to put it, thanks for your input..
     
  7. raider1968

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    Thanks for taking all that time to the write up on the Stradale - great work - I have said it many times, I believe the CS has a true classic look

    John E
     
  8. dmark1

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    #83 dmark1, Apr 21, 2009
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    Obviously you know NOTHING about the Stradale. In my previous post I was stating that the CS will be worth *todays* ( or that was my intent- if I wasn't clear my bad) F40 money in 10 - 15 years. Of course the F40 will be worth much more (probably closer to 1MM - 1.3MM to keep the
    same multiplier.) A hotted up 360?

    Obviously you know nothing about the Stradale.

    Mark
     
  9. John B

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    360TREV - Thanks! That is quite a bit of incremental weight savings.
     
  10. collegeboy

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    Such an amazing car!
     
  11. ThePusher

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    I am not bashing It is a great car but to believe that a Stradale and an F40 will be worth the same amount is wrong. The hype that is sometimes posted here is just incorrect - like those that say only 300 Stradales were built worldwide. Buy the car you like and enjoy the heck out of it.
     
  12. ThePusher

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    You are kidding right. Your post said it would be worth F40 money in 10-15 years. You said nothing about a Stradale 10-15 years from now being the same price as an F40 today. That is just inflation and has nothing to with appreciation or anything else relevant to the discussion.

    I have driven 2 Stradales and a Scud plus many other exotics. The F40 is a truly unique vehicle from the ground up. The Challenge Stradale is based on the 360 chassis with many modifications to improve it. Like I said great results and I respect the car but to compare it to the F40 is just wrong... the F40 will always be more collectible.

    Who knows... I may buy a Stradale in the future since I actually preferred it to the Scud but I wouldn't pay F40 money for it.
     
  13. Jompen

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    F40 is one of a kind, even if it was produced in larger numbers then the CS =) F40 is THE supercar and always will be, CS is the closest you can get to supercar for the € you spend and the best sounding road legal car ever built, it also gives me pulse when driving it. Few cas does that.
     
  14. zero

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    Trev360 first of all i love what you have done with your car mate:D. Very nicly done;)
    Though am i right in beleving that it originaly started life as a LHD 1999 360 Modena? I am sure i saw your car at a car show or track day last year. And noticed it was not a factory unit. Am i right?
    Anyway i think you have done a great job converting it to CS spec. How long did it take you to collect the donor CS parts? Did you use the likes of Eurospares ect?
     
  15. BigP1202

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    I asked a quick question earlier and maybe you guys missed it. But does anyone know why in some of the press photos the cars had the "Challenge Stradale" badge on the back and in others they didn't? I've always wondered that.
     
  16. tonyh

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    good eye but no idea :) But i'm guessing there were prototypes and for this reason the 5th gear test car had "sport" light on dash when RACE mode was selected.
     
  17. dmark1

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    #92 dmark1, Apr 22, 2009
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    Triple in price in 10 years and you consider that NORMAL inflation?

    Oh, yeah , Obama IS in office. Maybe your right. Sorry.

    I will make one statement that I am sure will bring about some discussion here. I think the CS is FAR and AWAY prettier than the F40. F40 looks very 80's (think Miami Vice) - the CS just looks... right.
     
  18. ThePusher

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    :)

    With Obama we may hit it a few years. Anyone else see the 100,000,000,000,000 dollar bill in Zimbabwe - it is worth about $300.

    I agree with you on looks. I think the F40 is purposeful and amazing in its own right but not pretty... The 360 Strad is probably the best looking modern Ferrari. Some would say 355 which is also a great looking car. For me, to beat those you need to go back all the way to 275GTB, 250 SWB, or 250GT Lusso. The 70's era does nothing for me for some reason. I would also toss in the 288GTO as a stunner.

    mbm
     
  19. shawsan

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    A few more tidbits:

    First, it's not easy to calculate accurate weight to horsepower ratios for F cars because of rampant confusion over Ferrari reported weights. Lots of dispute over this issue, especially regarding euro vs. US spec weights. Having said this, using F manufacturer specified data, one can calculate the following ratios of HP/weight (in lbs.) as follows.

    360 modena = 7.66
    430 spider = 6.83
    CS = 6.63
    430 coupe = 6.52
    Scuderia 16M = 6.22
    Scuderia = 5.88

    These statistics are most relevant to interpreting how the cars would accelerate in a straight line, whereas we know that among the cars represented here, Ferrari test drivers would run the fastest time in the Scuderia, followed by the CS, followed by the Scuderia 16M, then the 430 coupe and then the 430 spider. In other words, the CS likes the twisties, as does the Scuderia of course.

    Second, for those living in the frozen north called Canada, the base price for a CS in 2004, (when the US $ was worth about $1.35 Cdn. $), was $284,000 Cdn. Add a few options, including brake clipers in red, CD changer, pre-wired battery charger, fire extinguisher, hi fi sound, stitchings in color, space saver wheel, freight and PDI, and the cost increased to $296,000. Then add Canada's federal tax (7%) and provincial tax (6%) and luxury car tax (3%), and the total cost to drive away was = $346,000. I've got the price sheet to prove it.
     
  20. shawsan

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    Correction, those figures are curb weight, in pounds, divided by horsepower.
     
  21. Hazy

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    Yes it was a 99 Modena mate, great conversion thought ay??? Whats the overall cost been Trev?
     
  22. 360racer

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    go the strads, best car!
     
  23. PAP 348

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    +360!! :eek::eek:
     
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  25. Spdrcrj

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    And thank you for doing so!!! Anyone know anything about the rear wing in the third picture from the original post?
     

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