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  1. caseykimma

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    #1 caseykimma, May 16, 2005
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    If anyone can help me out with this...I would GREATLY appreciate it. Earlier today my wife was involved in an accident where this a**hole in a Dodge Ram 1500 started turning up a one way street with a big "do not enter" sign. She was behind him approaching the stop sign when she saw him starting to turn, so she stopped. When she stopped, the reverse lights were already on and he had started backing up, clearly without looking. She layed on the horn and tried to back up, but before she could do anything, he hit her. Then she found out from the military police (it happened on base, at Balboa Hospital) that this jerk said that she rear-ended him. There were no witnesses and it is basically her word against his. Is there anyone out here that can tell from these photos that it proves he backed up into her? Other pictures were taken, but they are with the military police while case is investigated. Figured its a long shot, but worth trying....don't want this guy to get away with it and increase my insurance rates just because he decided to make up a story in the hopes of not having his insurance company pay...
    Thanks-Casey
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  2. FarmerDave

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    Ouch... That's a tough one. I'm not an adjuster so I'm no expert on "who is at fault," especially when there's differing stories.

    How is your wife? Shaken, I'm sure, but is she physically unharmed?

    Cars can be fixed easily. People aren't so easy to fix.
     
  3. PapaiK

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    I cant help you, but WOW, THAT SUCKS. I hope the friggen truck drivers gets what he deserves!!!!
     
  4. caseykimma

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    HI- this is the wife. Yes i'm OK, thanks for the concern. Just really ticked at the guy who is lying and really upset that it happened to my husbands car!!
     
  5. FarmerDave

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    Very glad to hear you're okay. :) Keep us updated as it develops. I wish I had some magic words that would fix the mess but I don't! If you guys have specific questions as things unfold, feel free to ask, I'll do my best to answer as best I can.
     
  6. Omerta

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    I would think that, without a witness, it would be VERY hard to prove whether the truck backed into the car or whether the car rear-ended the truck. It's sad that this guy would try to screw you over, and instead of taking responsibility for his actions, make you pay for them. what a di<k head.

    Hope it works out in your favour.
     
  7. Etcetera

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    Check the area out and try to find security cameras.

    Who knows, you might get lucky!
     
  8. SrfCity

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    Hopefully you get it sorted out. One thing to note is your story makes sense looking at the pics. Reason is that if your wife rear ended him there would be signs of the car trying to dive under the bumper of the truck. The combination of her slamming on the breaks thus forcing the nose of the BMW down would cause scrapes on the hood of the car. None of that is visible. A police report plus statement should help to verify her story for the insurance adjusters. Make sure you get it fixed as good as new and don't accept some wimpy settlement. Good luck.
     
  9. darth550

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    Usually these fux go for SUV's, due to the likelihood of a larger policy.

    Sorry to hear it, man.
     
  10. caseykimma

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    there wasn't a security camera at that interesction, only at another intersection. if we had that, it would be a done deal (i think!). we did just talk to the security department to see how things were coming and they said they have good pictures of the guy's truck at the intersection with his wheels turned towards the "do not enter" entrance. they also said based on the info from both sides that our story made more sense and that they were siding with us and would make sure the report reflected that.
     
  11. caseykimma

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    that's what we were thinking, driving a BMW and both of us being Navy officers..
    Casey
     
  12. 134282

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    Guys like that make it incredibly easy to be a misanthrope... Can anyone tell me what movie this line is from: "God i hate the living..."


    Anyway, Casey and, um... Mrs. Casey... Are there skid marks where the accident occured...? Skid marks going backwards might be a viable indication that you, in fact, DID try to go in reverse... i think, in most instances, when someone knows they're gonna get hit, they instinctively get on the brakes... Standing on the brakes while someone hits your car and maybe pushes it backward might leave some tread... Also, any skid marks from him might benefit your case... i would go back there with a camera (and flashlight if necessary) and see if there's any other evidence...

    Did anyone get pictures of the position of the two cars immediately after the accident...? If so, is there any indication that he was turning or about to turn or had just reversed from turning down a one-way street...?

    Good luck with it; i'm sorry the guy's being a total schmuck; above all, though, i'm glad Mrs. Casey is okay... Someone else said - you can replace the car, you can't replace Mrs. Casey... Keep us posted on the results...
     
  13. Tifoso1

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    Great points. Also look for skid marks which I am sure there are none in this case. In theory, if your wife had rear-ended the truck, there should be skid marks as your wife would probably have slammed on her brakes right before impact, logically speaking, of course. If there are none, it is more likely that the truck backed into your Bimmer. Good luck.
     
  14. Mule

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    Here is a thought. If your wife was hit while stopped at the stop sign, wouldn't it be hard to argue that she rear ended another vehicle? Where was the other verhicle, in the intersection? I am saying that if she was one slot behind the stop sign, it would seem she hit him. If she is at the stop sign in the #1 position, the vehicle ahead of her either reversed into her from the intersection or was already out in the intersection pulling away.

    I am glad that she is okay. That is the important thing.
     
  15. Z0RR0

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    Just match the height of the truck bumper with the damage (which is very clear...), and prove (by the height) that your car was not moving (unless you have rock hard springs and your car does not dive under braking ...).
     
  16. caseykimma

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    Hi- this is the wife again. No skid marks- but I was only half a cars length from the stop sign (a few feet from the crosswalk). Also, the security guy said he got pics of the guys tires facing to the right, which is the direction he was turning into the one way street. The security said they're on my side and that he'll do everything he can to make it look like the other guy's fault in his report. It just really ticks me off that people have to lie and try to take advantage of others. I'm an honest, hard working person and I spend each and everyday taking care of others (I'm a nurse) and it just really makes me mad when you just get crapped on from others (no pun intended). It's frustrating when you do good things for others, and that same courtesy isn't returned.
     
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  19. BWS550

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    CASEY

    IM SURE YOUR WIFE IS IN SHOCK RIGHT NOW, AND BY TOMORROW MORNING SHE WILL HAVE NECK, BACK, AND SHOULDER PAIN FROM THIS ACCIDENT.

    MAKE SURE SHE GOES TO THE DR. AND HE DOCUMENTS ALL OF HER PAIN SITUATIONS AND THEN GET YOURSELF A GOOD LAWYER

    THIS IS A SCUMBAG YOU ARE DEALING WITH WHO LIES AND YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HE HAS UP HIS SLEEVE..

    BELIEVE NOTHING YOU HEAR AND HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE....TAKE NO PRISONERS...

    DONT WASTE TIME, THE FIRST 24 HOURS ARE CRUCIAL..

    GOOD LUCK AND BEST TO YOUR WIFE

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  20. caseykimma

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    well, went to the body shop at lunch today and they had the front end all torn apart. almost shed a tear-what a horrible sight! they gave me an estimate on the damage, about $2,900; i'm getting the itemized list tomorrow. also said should only take about 8 days to fix, which doesnt seem too bad. on the bright side, two days in a row there have been two different Ferraris at the service shop on the other side: a light blue/silver 360 yesterday and a silver 550 today. i know, "this thread is worthless without pictures", but i didnt have my camera on me today and plan to bring it tomorrow...
    Casey
     
  21. GoFerrari28

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    Have you guys looked into whether either the BMW or d!ckbrain's truck have a black box that records impacts and the vehicles' settings at the time, i.e. what speed, gear, steering imput, etc. that the vehicles were at at the time of impact? We have discussed that before as it relates to some manslaughter charges.
     
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    #22 caseykimma, May 19, 2005
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    -thanks for all the feedback. i'll have to look into the black boxes. i do have a car chip, but of course it wasnt plugged in at the time!
    -went by the body shop again to get another look. $2,900 estimate included (among other, smaller things) grille, hood, housing frame, support assbly and $1,300 worth of labor. car was already getting put back together as parts came in and is still scheduled to get finished within 8 days from day of accident.
    -no updates on the insurance settlement, companies are still working it out and completing investigations. also waiting for security report to be released from naval base
    -did not see the nicer (IMO) Ferraris from the days before (360, 550), but saw yet a different one back behind the fence..

    Casey
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  23. WJHMH

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    At least the radiator wasn't damaged or the A/C condenser lines, if that was damaged & over looked it would be something to be concerned about. The core support looks to be untouched. Not that bad at all really as for cosmetic damage. Just make the bastard pay for his mistake. Good luck & thanks for keeping us posted.
     

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