TUBI TEST PIPES

Sianara marshman; I leave you with the promise of using straight pipes forever and ever, amen! And by the waymake sure you cut your lawn with scissors!

 

Clint-
I have noticed from your profile that you do not have a licence plate on the front of your F-car which is in direct violation of Texas law. And I'll bet that at times you also drive faster than the posted speed limit. These are examples of your total disrespect for the LAW! Or should I say your selective respect for the law. Look you are entitled to your opinion and IMHO encourgaged to express it here, but what you are doing here and have done for some time is harrass and badger grown men (and possibly some women) that make up their own mind which laws they will follow and which one they will disregard. I know you are concerned for the environment, but be intelligent about it and consider the full landscape. It has become an ego battle for you and there are much better ways for you to spend your cybertime maybe actually helping people since you are a "consultant".
BTW, I ocassionally through in some mispelled words just to spise things up and see who I'm deeling with. Cheers, Jim

 

I did a test on an F40 with Tubi mufflers. When we removed the Cats, We saw a 10rwhp incease, a decrease in low end throttle response and a slight increase in idle speed.
The exhaust note was also louder. Maybe too loud. Test over, Cats back on.

Rick

 

Dave,

Who are the people you know that are serving time? Are they in Texas, that's incredible.

I chose to take the test pipes off my 348 and replace with high performance Cats, but I'm not sure there's an argument that removing Cats on a "recreational" car would be reprehensible behavior.

Morally, should I ADD Cats to a ‘60’s muscle car that is only driven occasionally? Hell, we could probably add more Catalysts to our 550’s and marginally reduce the emissions. Or just not drive them at all…..

The Track vs. Street distinction isn’t really valid. If you’re going to make it acceptable to drive a car "recreationally", the pollutants enter the atmosphere in the same way, whether your on a race track or a Highway. The thing to remember is that our "recreational" mileage and corresponding pollutants constitute the tiniest fraction of the global total.

Mark McKenzie

 

Clint-
Just because you filled in bogus information for your profile doesn't mean that thoses of us who have read your comments don't know you pretty well. Every time you post something, you are giving us information about yourself. So I have developed your psychological profile:
1. You are definitely ego driven. Every time anyone has anything to say to you, you fire back a volley.
2. You are extremely rigid bordering on anal. The fact that you wouldn't admit that you have broken a law albeit an unimportant or unjust law shows your inflexibility.
3. Your are judgemental. Instead of providing information in a concerned fashion, you are judging people that you don't even how as well as we know you.
I could go on, but you get the point. Although I do believe that you were honest when you listed your profession.
Anybody else want to help Clint face his identity? I am going to do something significant now: Play golf!!! Cheers, Jim

 

Fair enough. I agree, that there's really no reason to take them off. I even reinstalled them on my 348, mainly because I hated the smell without them. There was no perceptible difference in HP, but the sound is a little less "sharp", although it still sounds fantastic.

I do disagree with the statement that people deserve to be in prison for removing catalytic converters; unless of course they were doing so without the Owner’s consent, or using them to make explosive devices, or narcotics…..

See you tomorrow.

Mark

 

Oh little marshmallow; I know I said I would not respond to any more of your rhetorical BS, but I have been accosted to post again, so back by popular demand here we go. I do believe that the only FELONY charge someone here might face would be the battery charge after knocking you in the throat with a 2x4. PIPE ON - CAT OFF. You are just an annoying and very spoiled pain in the ass! Next your going to say that homosexuals should be legally married.
Go buy a Yugo!

 

Maramarshmallowboy: Gotcha! Again and again and again.
Say Goodnight Dick

 

...and is it also true that most SUVs are substantially exempt from the emissions laws as they are designated trucks?

 

'77 308GTB with Non Catalyst label in the door frame. '78s had cats as first year so equipped, I believe. These cars are exempt in Texas at 25 years of age, from smog check.

We still comply with nameplate standards, if we work real hard to get to the numbers!

Cat equipped cars should stay that way, IMO. Test pipes are off road use only, I believe. You know, like slicks!

 

Hey Maranello -

Just took offf my cats and replaced with test pipes just for you.

 

Think globally, act locally. Greenpeace member since 1984.

 

My son is asthmatic, as well. Give the little guy a break! He says "Thanks".

Why do you think I bought the '77?? For the DOT sticker, man!

My attorney asked me to just break one law...at a time!

 

Are you really a PIMP?

 

To me, there is a fundamental flaw in this position.

On one hand you're claiming it would somehow be morally wrong to remove the Cats from a car made one year later, but you have purposefully purchased a more polluting, although more desirable, car, just for the DOT sticker. Shouldn’t you have intentionally purchased a ’78 to pollute less?

Another example is the notion that somehow track cars should be allowed to pollute more, as if while driving just for pleasure on a track, the pollutants are somehow different than those produced during a recreational drive on the street.

The argument falls apart when you try to enforce a supposedly unbending moral obligation with a Federal Law that is by nature flawed with loopholes and issues due to the timing of its implementation.

I reinstalled the cats on my car, and I like the car better with them. But if I liked it more without them, I do not think I would deserve to go to prison for driving from the race track to the gas station.

Mark McKenzie

 

Ouh, hard stuff. Someone deserves jail for a minor offense? Ridiculous. I basically agree that we should value environmental concerns over a marginal increase in performance, but your fundamentalistic approach makes it difficult to concur.

 

I don't have children so I don't give a damn what shape I leave the world in

 

Cost of Set of test pipes-$300
Cost of Attorney needed for felony charge "NO CATS"-$1,500
Cost of Making sure "maramarshmallow pimp" breathes test pipe exhaust- PRICELESS!