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Turn signal suggestions

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  1. Irishman

    Irishman F1 Rookie

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    My '78 308 turn signal stalk has gotten stubborn. In the left or right position the lights do not blink unless I apply additional pressure by pressing down on the stalk.

    Anyone know what part of the stalk needs refurb and what the procedure is for removing it?
     
  2. steve meltzer

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    I don't know how to remove the stalk, as I've never had to do that. However, the go to guy to fix this is Jim Simpson in Calif.

    email me if you need more info..high quality guy; high quality wwork.
    [email protected]

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  3. absostone

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  4. Steve Magnusson

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    Most likely the large contacts inside the assembly have oxidized/corroded/have oxidized wear debris between the contact faces:

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    If nothing is broken, I think just cleaning them would resolve the problem (but can't recall if they are easily accessed -- in the photo the turn signal arm is removed). Getting the steering wheel hub off is the tricky bit -- has a ring nut (so needs the correct ring nut socket) and the taper fit needs a puller.
     
  5. Michael DB

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    Aerosol switch cleaner-the type with the 6” fine spray tube?
     
  6. Cennzo

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    Maybe you’re just low on blinker fluid …
     
  7. Ferraridoc

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    Before embarking on a Quixotic quest, turn on the indicator, and then wiggle the hazard light switch, and see what happens.
     
  8. jimpo1

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    Probably needs to change to synthetic!
     
  9. Irishman

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    Nothing happens if I wiggle the hazard light switch. Actually it really will not move except to switch from off to on and back again. With the turn signal indicator on, but lights not blinking, if I turn on the hazard switch both left and right lights blink like they should.
     
  10. jmaienza

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    Your turn signal pivot end, which is made of plastic, is probably cracked. It happens with age because the plastic shrinks against the metal shaft. Then it looses alignment of the contact ends.

    Verell at unobtainiumsupply.com can rebuild it.
     
  11. Ferraridoc

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    OK, that's just an easy one to overlook. Now it gets... complicated, but Verell has a fix if the end's broken. And Steve's suggestion if it's not.
     
  12. jmaienza

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    Verell can mold new plastic ends on all of the stalks if necessary. He also overhauls the body of the switch and cleans the contacts.

    You can check to see if the plastic is cracked by getting a flashlight and looking at the edge where the stalk ends and the plastic begins. Sometimes you can see a hairline crack.

    You may have more broken plastic further in and the switch needs to come out to fully check that.

    Also if you want to really clean those contacts the switch should be removed.
     
  13. Irishman

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    Has anyone worked with Verell recently? I sent an email to info at Unobtanium but did not get a reply.

    I plan to remove the switch to see what I'm dealing with, and hoping as Steve suggested there is invisible oxidation or visible corrosion I can clean up. Thanks for all the suggestions!
     
  14. newark_308

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    Verrell sent out a post on FB not too long ago indicating his PC was down and with it his capability to respond to email.


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  15. Irishman

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    I am not on FB so thanks for that update. Should I require his services I will send written correspondence via the US mail.
     
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  18. Irishman

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    Great thread but my issue is turn signal not headlight. Or am I missing something here?
     
  19. ragtop1

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    sorry Kevin, senior moment.
    Most problems and discussions left of the steering wheel relate to the headlight stalk. For some reason, I went there.
    However, I did have problems with the turn signals not working on my '78 GTS. I removed the hazard switch and cleaned all the termination connection spades. Then, I disassembled the hazard switch and cleaned all the contacts inside. This was about 2 years ago. No issues since and the car sits for the winter months.
    New hazard light switches are available but expensive. For future reference, the electric window switches can be disassembled and cleaned also.
     
  20. Steve Magnusson

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    If the hazard switch was the problem = the turn signals would never work (and not work when "I apply additional pressure by pressing down on the stalk").
     
  21. ragtop1

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    I'm definitely leaning toward your diagnosis and solution. It makes perfect sense. I think Irishman should go clean those contacts as a first stab.
     

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