It doesn't really matter. Tony's always maintained that he's changed nothing except putting on the kit. Seems this is not the case. Maybe he's blown up a few gear boxes and engines as well. Anything else you haven't told us, Tony? Gear Ratios are here http://www.pless.com.au/gearratio.jpg
No Peter, you are wrong. Tony "originally" maintained he changed nothing except the kit, but recently he's been researching rear tyre sizes in order to improve traction and the 1/4 time, and of course top speed. Why don't you buy the kit and put it on yours... you already have the MoTeC, so you're an ideal candidate?
Ok 9000 rpm in 6th on a std geared 355 with properly inflated 305/45/18 rear tyres is ..341.24 km/h or 213+ mph So, YOU'RE ALL WRONG, except me.
Sorry..i'm not wrong. He certainly said he was looking for new tyres to improve traction, but he said nothing about changing the size of them to anything other than standard.
Nope. 9000 rpm / 3.638 overall final drive ratio in 6th (from pless.com.au) = 2473.887 wheel turns / min x 60 = 148433.2 turns / hour x 2.299 metres (tyre circumference) = 341247.92 metres/hr / 1000 = 341.24 km/h .... unless on planet pless there are not 60 minutes in an hour....
Phil, you forgot to factor in tyre slip and deformation which is generally accepted at about 2%, which makes about 334kmh, which is why I stated AROUND 330kmh.
HA HA!! You reckon a 355 can spin it's wheels at 340Km/h!! That's a pless like statement. Also, at 340km/h, tyre deformation actually goes over.. so true speed could easily be more that my calculation, depending on how strong the tyre is.
Phil what is the coefficent of friction between rubber and bitumen whilst spinning at 3000rpm? Your theory relies on no frictional losses between the two surfaces. Be sure to distinguish between opinions and facts when discussing issues. It is probably worth mentioning that I have a degree in applied mathematics, only my major was computer science.. There is ALWAYS tyre slip involved.
yeah yeah, and you were all including that 2% right, bull5hit artists. anyway, the wheels are turning at 2473.887 rpm, not 3000. I guess your maths degree is worth plenty! really, you guys have been hanging around together just a few days, and already the crap is flowing. FWIW, I don't know of course, but I'd say tyre slip is negligable at that speed, and more of a factor while accelerating, even without "known" wheel spin.
Don't be sad, I still love you.....and yes you are right, i did think about the slip after the fact. My initial calc was based on PP's 301 quoted speed on standard tyres, but we can't let the facts get in the way of winning an argument can we??
whatever the exact speed im not sure I would be comfortable driving at that speed on public aussie roads, apart from the obvious (other cars, animals etc) maybe your roads are better down there but up here with sporty suspension even the good quality roads at 150-200 the cars are starting to jump around from all the surface irregularities 300+ would be like a dirt road
Also, FWIW, on the data from 360C and GT, there is no tyre slip difference between front and rear wheels even while accelerating in a straight line once over about 130km/h... but on slicks of course. I know a lot of massively well educated people, with amazingly responsible jobs that effect a scary number of peoples well being.... and they couldn't boil an egg or make toast. Me.. I missed my English O level exam because I read the timetable wrong.... by a day. Dumb as dog 5hit, but still smarter than some here....!
That's the sort of thing that only a person with no education would say. Anyone been watching the Apprentice, btw?
Wind and drag would reduce the abiltity to pull the rpm in the gear in question, but he says he pulled the 9000rpm limiter, so that's the speed he was doing. Most cars won't pull max rpm in top, which is why their top speed is less than the theoretical calculation. The fighter planes that defend this country and others like it are flown by pilots using a head up display system for enemy combat, designed by a guy with more education than just about anyone here... and he can barely tie his own shoes. He's a family friend, and a prime example of how education does not mean everything, especially when that education is computer and paperwork based. My CV includes 4 years of tertiary education. But it's my achievements since this that I'm more satisfied with.
How well educated could a person be who can't fix an oil leak? Or would that just be classed as a lack of intelligence? Or is it like the highly educated guy who can't tie his shoelaces? Maybe that's the problem with you Phil, you're too smart and too well educated to be a mechanic!! All makes sense to me now. Just asking, not that it has anything to do with a 355TT....sorry...back on topic now.
wouldnt the engine have to be working harder though, while the engine is doing 9000rpm surely there would be a difference between the speed the wheels are traveling on say a dyno and when the wheels are having to push the car against the wind. If i am rowing a boat at say 10strokes per min with 0 wind i will be going way faster than if im am doing 10spm into a 20km/h wind. In each case my arms are traveling at the same speed however the boat is having to overcome the extra wind
Pless, it's you I refuse to deal with, not your car. Sell your car to someone else, and firstly, the leak will amazingly be insignificant all of a sudden, and secondly it was the sump that was the real leak, and I said to come back if fixing that didn't satisfy you. Your non appearance since then satisfies me that you are satisfied. You don't much education or common sense to work out who the stupid one around here is......
nwo, you've lost the plot dude, it's a f**king car man not a boat and I'm telling on you boys here, I didn't see any of you in church and the padre was asking about yuz...now we know yooz have been on here all day wif ya slide rules and cumputars working overtime trying to see if he did 330, 334, 341, 351 f**k who cares !!?? He's bloody mad and that is a FACT!! I expected better from you Stephen but look what happens when we leave you alone on the thread with these 2
Your right i did lose the plot, i tried to learn something on a thread AFTER aircon and ff started fighting Plus i think it was a fair comparision, i have been in a few falcadoors that felt like boats It matters what speed he did if he only did 330 thats a pansey effort
