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TWIN TURBO TR!!!

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  1. lashss

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    WOW!! $85K gets you 1000hp, where do I sign up?
     
  3. AntonyR

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    How did I miss this? Thats a nice set up. Lash they should lower the compression more or at least put a thicker headgasket, raise the boost a few more pounds and get put a T4 60-1 turbo in there.

    I like the norwood set up but why do they use a water to air? I know its better for track but for driving around i would rather have a Air to Air


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  4. lashss

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    Antony, not sure about the air to air reasoning...maybe David can explain?

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  5. AntonyR

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    Ok lets see ...........

    Driving around all day with a water to air intercooler will eventually be pointless for it cant cool it down. I think they work best for a drag race or a 2-3 house race. You can fill it with ice water. Now Air to Air is always cools also it depends on the air temp, the size of the intercooler etc. I could get more tech. but ill let David take it from here.......




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  7. Samson518

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    Super Chimp to the rescue!

    For automotive street applications, air-to-air technology is easy to install, highly effective, extremely reliable since it has no moving parts, and requires no maintenance. Air-to-water intercooler systems, on the other hand, are much more difficult to install as they contain an intercooler, a separate radiator to cool the water, a water tank, and a pump. But probably the biggest drawback to air-to-water on the street is that this technology requires the addition of ice to match the efficiency of air-to-air technology. Additionally, the requirement of ice and the possibility of pump failure or leakage means that air-to-water is also inherently less reliable.

    For race-only applications, air-to-water works well since the need to add ice at the track prior to each run is not a big drawback. The other issues are the same as listed above for street applications, and efficiency will be comparable with the use of ice.

    Air to air intercooler cores feature a high effectiveness ambient and charge air fins with a low-pressure drop. Pressure drop in an air-to-air intercooler is very critical in today's high output sport compact cars. The bar and plate design offers exceptionally high pressure capabilities for today's high revving, high boosting race applications. This makes these intercoolers ideal for street and recreational use as they never need to be refilled with water and ice. The volume of the heat exchange core (the section comprising the cooling fins only) is a guide to the amount of contact the heated charge-air has with cooling air. The larger the core volume, the better the charge-air can be thoroughly cooled.

    Air to Liquid intercoolers offer compactness without sacrificing performance. These units use an external water pump that circulates water through a separate heat exchanger and a separate reservoir. In street applications, air to liquid intercoolers prevent heat soak to the core during stop and go driving by circulating water through the core when the vehicle is not in motion. In race applications where ice water is utilized, air to liquid offers performance beyond air to air units.

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  8. AntonyR

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    Thats what I said LOL

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    Amazing, Samson, you chase cars yet know a lot re: turbo technology. You are an enigma, a dream and a nightmare.

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  10. Samson518

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    My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were...... trained chimps.
     
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    good one.... :)
     
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    What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin?
     
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    Puff Daddy?
     
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    I think only his wife calls him that :)
     

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