Ultimate fuel additive?

That info is just incredible!!!!!!

 

And compelling for sure. I wonder what AEHAAS has to say about this website and their claims.
-Nate

 

OK, I'll put 3 Oz of Acetone in my Toyota at next fill up and measure the mileage.

I'm not testing the theory on a Ferrari just yet!

Birdman

 

Engine manufacturers are fighting to get every last % in good fuel consumption. 20-30% improvements with a bit of acetone? Excuse me?

He sure can write though


A. Skeptic

 

No, its not "ground shaking", it is a bunch of crap. Take a look at the other articles http://www.lubedev.com/articles/ They are equally stupid.

This whole acetone nonsense has been debunked. From a forum for engineers:
http://eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=119611&page=11

Look for the post here by Keith Shaw, he is a former refinery engineer (ChemE)
who now works at http://www.swri.edu/default.htm Here is the thead
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22599&highlight=acetone

 

I'm not so sure the milage claims are real, although it's easy enough to test. For a few years in the 80s, acetone and toluene were blended for F1 fuel. If I recall, acetone gives more hp, toluene better milage. The teams would run simulations with varying blends to find the best blend for a particular track of hp vs fuel load. I know toluene is about 114 octane and burns about the same as gas, I think acetone is about the same octane, but I'm pretty sure it burns hotter.

It will help prevent knocking by increasing octane....but 2-3oz per 10 gallons doesn't seem like it would do anything. The final actane is a ratio, so for 3 onz. in 10 gallons it would be (10*93+3/128*114)/(10+3/128)= 93.05 octane

 

Okay kids, hold on to your hats.

I went to Wal-Mart today and bought a measuring glass. It looks kind of like a shot glass but a little bit bigger, and has marks measuring ounces up to 4oz. Then I went to Home Depot and bought a 32oz. can of acetone. With tax it came to $6.10.

I ran my tank all the way down as far as I could, with out it runnning out of gas. My gas tank holds 13.2 gallons of gas, and when I finished filling it up I put in 13.01 gallons of 87 octane. So it was pretty dry. I figured that each ounce of acetone will mix with 3.3333 gallons of gas. Since my tank holds 13.2 gallons of gas I added 3.96 ounces of acetone. I tried to add the acetone before I filled up but ended up spilling about half an ounce. When I got home I added another 1/2 oz. Next time I'll just add it before I head to the gas station. I also figured that the 32oz can of acetone should last me 8 full tanks of gasoline. That comes to about .76 cents a tank, or .05 cents a gallon.

When I drive 65mph on the freeway I have been getting about 385 miles out of a tank of gas, or 31mpg. This is averaging 12.5 gallons of gas per fill up. If the acetone works and I get an increase of 20%, I should get about 37mpg, or 462 miles out of a tank of gas. This is driving at 65mph.

I know these figures on my car because I have been keeping track of them for the past 4 years. Actually I do it with all my vehicals. Oh, by the way it's a 1990 Acura Integra.

I'll keep updating this thread each time I fill up until the can of acetone is gone.

So kids, come back at the end of the week for the next exciting episode of "Acetone".

Don't forget to bring your decoder rings.

 

I can hardly wait!!!

 

excellent!

oh, and in bulk, I think acetone is about $3.00 - $3.50 per gallon, so you'll be able to get down to only 35-40 cents per fill up

 

I'm intrigued... and looking forward to the follow-ups.

 

Um...doesn't acetone eat fuel line, fuel pump gaskets, etc.?

Ken

 

I'm going to give it a try . I do a lot of towing in my Navigator, mostly a 24ft enclosed trailer with cars and bikes. Once in awhile I'll get a bit of detonation and even though the computer will retard the ignition I know I'm losing horsepower. Also the truck has an onboard computer to monitor fuel consumption and such. We'll see what happens. I'll keep ya filled in with results.

Darrell.

 

Folks, this guy is such a quack. When I went to the website I recognized it from several years ago, but I kept reading. I'm about to leave now, so I wont' finish, but the final example of his cluelessness that I came across is as follows:
"BTW a four-cylinder engine is inherently capable of producing better MPG than a six or eight. This is due to the longer TIME available for combustion allowed by fewer cylinders for better efficiency. The longer time for the burning process in a four is twice that of an eight. Thus an eight is inherently more wasteful of fuel in theory than a four or six-cylinder engine. This simple fact is not well known. More cylinders shorten the time that combustion has to finish the total job of burning all the fuel and oxygen measured from the time the spark occurs to when the exhaust valve opens"

I trust most readers in this forum will recognize that no matter how many cylinders the engine has, each one has the same amount of time at, say, 2000 rpm on the highway to burn. Of course, a 4 cylinder will have to be geared shorter due to it's presumed lack of displacement, so it will have to spin 3000 rpm instead of 2000 rpm on the highway...

Who knows, the tolulene might work, but I'd have expected to see someone introduce it in their fuels as "guaranteed 30% fuel economy increase with our new superfuel" for a 20% price premium. But it hasn't happened, has it...???

 

This thread wreaks of something fishy... The originator of this thread is subscribed, but doesn't have his profile filled out. The claims he's making sound like something you'd hear on an infomercial for some b.s. product -

Are you *kidding* me?! A half of an octance increase caused your exhuast note to emit a raspy growl and snarl? What the hell were you feeding the car before - milk?

I'm calling B.S. on this whole tread - I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't our old friend AllanLambo.

 

I would imagine the flash point of acetone is very low. It evaporates off when my wile removes her finger nail polish. It may work to remove water for long term storage. I would think similar to gasolines that contain 10% etanol that it would actually lower fuel milage. In such small concentrations I can't imagine any effect.

 

One more thing.

I got 400.2 miles out of that last tank of gas (13.01 gal), before I filled up and added the acetone. So that was 30.76mpg. I was driving kinda fast on that tank, so that's why it isn't the 31mpg I stated earlier. But it's really close, and that was an average of what I would get. Sometimes it would be 31mpg, other times 32mpg, , and still others 29mpg.

Anyway I just wanted you guys to have a base of the milage as a starting reference point.

Yes I know some of you want to have a mid point update, but your just gonna have to wait until the next fill up. We'll let the milage numbers do the talking.

 

I'm waiting for Ernie's results. He is the unbiased tester of this experiment.

Birdman