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  1. Dreambrother

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    #1 Dreambrother, May 24, 2013
    Hi everyone,

    I reached a milestone in my career as photographer/editor. I was able to film this magnificent Ferrari 212 F1 1951 Monoposto on track last sunday! It is one of only 2 or three made, and it is certain that it was being driven by Dorino Serafini during the Syracuse Grand Prix in 1951, in which he finished second. It was great to be in the nearness of such a great and rare car, and also to be able to film its performances.

    Unfortunately, due to cold spring weather in The Netherlands and the fact this driver was only allowed four laps on the track (WTF??) the tires could not be warmed up properly, so top speeds were never met.

    The owner of the car is a true Ferrari lover, a very nice man, and he treats his car like his own child. Thank you for having had the opportunity to portray this epic machine!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZZPNEeQuUM](HD) SCC: Ferrari 212 F1 Monoposto 1951 - Dorino Serafini - Vintage Formula 1 Racing Car in Top Gear - YouTube[/ame]

    Regards!
    Walter
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  2. El Wayne

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    #2 El Wayne, May 24, 2013
    Nicely done. Thanks for sharing.

    The car is 212 GP Monoposto s/n 102. From when it was listed for sale by DK Engineering in 2008:

     
  3. RedMondialTCab

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    #3 RedMondialTCab, May 24, 2013
    Errug gaaf gefilmed!!
    Thanx :):)
     
  4. Ferris Bueller

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    #4 Ferris Bueller, May 24, 2013
    I love how you included the sound bytes of the original race commentator
    Really great video work
    Thanks for posting
     
  5. Michiel

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    #5 Michiel, May 24, 2013
    Wauw wat een mooi filmpje!!!!! En die wagen........pfietfieuw!!
     
  6. Dreambrother

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    #6 Dreambrother, May 24, 2013
    Wow, thanks for your answer. There are some magic words in your story, like: Ascari, Villoresi etc... I am more of a photographer and admirer of vintage Ferraris than a technician, but do you mean that the chassis of #102 was raced by Ascari in the 1950's? And what about the bodywork? Are we looking at the bodywork which Ascari/Villoresi raced, or what Serafini raced? Or is it not Original whatsoever and is it mainly the chassis that writes the history here?

    Regards!
    Walter
     
  7. RedMondialTCab

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    #7 RedMondialTCab, May 24, 2013
    Dus jij zat in die witte combo die ervoor reed... ;)
     
  8. CSM0TION

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    #8 CSM0TION, May 24, 2013
    That was great! I really enjoyed watching. Is that the whole bit or a teaser?
     
  9. Dreambrother

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    #9 Dreambrother, May 24, 2013
    Thanks! Ik zat inderdaad achterin die Astra station gevouwen. Ik werd rondgereden in mijn eigen auto... :)
     
  10. Dreambrother

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    #10 Dreambrother, May 24, 2013
    No, this is it actually! I was thrown back and forth in the back of my own Opel stationwagon :)-) so this is all the best material. There was a GoPro mounted on the hood of my car, so I was able to film in two directions. More material is more of the same I guess.... Thanks for the compliments BTW! For me this is a milestone too!
     
  11. Fast_ian

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    #11 Fast_ian, May 24, 2013
    +1 to all.

    Very nicely done.

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  12. JTR

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    #12 JTR, May 24, 2013
    Excellent!
    Thanks for posting!

    John
     
  13. El Wayne

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    #13 El Wayne, May 24, 2013
    Very cool video, but we don't really need four different discussions going on at the same time. Merged all four threads into one.
     
  14. Bryanp

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    #14 Bryanp, May 24, 2013
    That is fantastic! You have inspired me.
     
  15. todaxyz

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    #15 todaxyz, May 24, 2013
    Beautiful video work, fantastic car. Thanks El Wayne for the background into too!
     
  16. marcos

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    #16 marcos, May 24, 2013
    Moving arround I see :D, nice vid Walter and what a fantastic car!!!!
     
  17. El Wayne

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    #17 El Wayne, May 24, 2013
    I left all of the redirects in the other forums. I figure it's a nice enough video that we should still direct traffic here to see it. :)
     
  18. YELO T

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    #18 YELO T, May 24, 2013
    Well done. Interesting how high up the driver sticks out of the cockpit.
     
  19. Dreambrother

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    #19 Dreambrother, May 26, 2013
    Yes indeed. Probably all known to you, but the driver told me that there were no seatbellts in the car because in those days they believed drivers had better chances of survival when they were being thrown out of the car when it would roll over. With seatbelts you'd break your neck instantly, so I believe that. The lack of belts make that you have to lean into the corners with your body, like on a motorcycle.

    I was so Lucky to sit in the car, and the backsupport of the seat was really good. Of course this was not the Original seat.

    Thanks indeed El Wayne for understanding my good intensions in promoting this video!

    Have a good Sunday!

    Walter
     
  20. rgm35

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    #20 rgm35, May 26, 2013
    Well done Walter. Like any great film clip it leaves you wanting more. Original sound bites give it a wonderful feeling of period authenticity.
     
  21. Nembo1777

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    #21 Nembo1777, May 26, 2013
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    Beautiful job congratulations and thank you!

    Your mention of being thrown around your station wagon brought back a memory of the challenges of such shoots, two memories actually:

    -My only incident ever or near miss testing quite a few significant Ferraris for Cavallino, FML and others was when I did the test drive of 268SP 0798 for Cavallino in 1998. I drove it on the roads near Silverstone then needed action shots so recruited a photographer in the Silverstone pitlane, borrowed Gregor Fisken's Subaru station wagon and while Terry Hoyle drove the 268 I had the photog in the back of the station wagon on some of the unused inner track sections of Silverstone. For such photos you keep a 3 meter 10 foot gap at 50mph...only problem is I had not driven a right hand drive cars in years at at one point I down shifted instead of upshifting and Terry nearly hit the back of the Sub and threw his hands up in the air...phew!

    -Memory two was a decade before when I was racing in Formula Renault in the UK in 1989. A sponsor arrived during a Donington test day with a full camera crew, huge camera and a Mercedes station wagon.
    I was actually "factory driver" for this outfit which was a complete joke -the gear linkage was un-rigid like overcooked linguini so you had as much chance knowing what gear you would get as if you pulled on a one armed bandit in a casino-but not having a budget I was stuck driving that. They wanted action car to car filming and I soon realized instead of driving the car I should put the mechanic in the car with my helmet and it would be more helpful if I drove the Mercedes station wagon. So we do a few laps like that 40-60mph I took really smooth lines, the cameraman is happy and then says pit...I had never driven an automatic in my life....so having entered pitlane and arriving near our pit I put the thing into park...at about 7mph.

    I never played rugby but that is how it must feels when two big guys and a huge camera invade your personal space!

    No one hurt, the Formula Renault had stopped moments before, the camera was unharmed thankfully and yes I never did that again:)

    MS
     
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    #22 3500 GT, May 26, 2013
    Very well done! Bravo!

    ~Ciao and best!
     
  23. Dreambrother

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    #23 Dreambrother, May 27, 2013
    Hey Marc, great stories man! I really enjoyed reading them. In Holland they have a saying: "It was a party of recognition" to read your experiences. I film quite a lot of classic cars, and quite often they allow me to drive them with a gopro mounted in the car. A story I'd like to share is that it is nót pretty to confuse the clutch with the break in a Mercedes 280 SL Pagode Automatic. I wanted to shift gears, but I braked very hard, because I thought the brake was the clutch pedal. I was driving about 25MPH I guess, and did not have seatbelts on, and my camera, which was at the passenger seat taping for the engine sound, flew down, and me against the dashboard. Thank GOD nobody was behind me. The smell of burnt rubber came over a few seconds later with the wind. Hehehe.

    Regards!
    Walter
     
  24. Nembo1777

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    #24 Nembo1777, May 28, 2013
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    Thank you Walter!

    Right one more quick tale: In 1998 at the Cavallino Classic when I test drove 250LM 6051 at Moroso circuit for the magazine my very first moments behind the wheel were during the car to car 40-50mph action shots.
    Photographer Jerry Wyszaticky was at the rear of his van driven by the actual owner of the LM, a very kind and generous enthusiast.

    Since the throttle was a bit hard and sticky I did not want to risk hitting the van so was a bit further back than the ideal 10 feet 3 meters and Jerry kept waving come closer but it was just far too sticky to take that risk hence the first photo shown here.

    One year later we are back at Moroso and this time I am due to drive a 333SP (chassis 019 winner of daytona and Sebring the year before) and since Didier Theys was there to show the new owner how to use the car I asked Didier to get in the car for the action shots behind the van. The owner of the 333SP (the same man who had the LM a year prior) drove the van and I just jumped in, sitting slightly behind Jerry who almost hung out the back gate of the van.

    Jerry remembering the previous year started energetically and somewhat indelicately waving at the 333SP driver to get close really close...but this was someone who is used to be three feet behind another car at 220mph on the Mulsanne straight, Didier is actually the winningest driver ever in 333SP's so Jerry's gesturing annoyed him just a little bit.

    Next thing you know there is burst of acceleration from the screaming prototype and....the 333's nose is literally under the van, Jerry yelped in fright and jumped back next to me:)

    Afterwards we had a good laugh when Dider asked him if that was close enough:)

    Best regards,

    Marc
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  25. Dreambrother

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    #25 Dreambrother, May 29, 2013
    Wow man, you really have driven the classic ones. I feel like a Lucky guy already to be able to drive the more common classic V12's for filming, like the 250 GTE, 250 PF, 330 GT and the more modern ones from the eightees. How did you end up way up there, with these extraordinary cars? Remarkable picture indeed of that 333 almost hitting the back of the car. Good stories man! Thanks!
     
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