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  1. Rod

    Rod Formula Junior

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    #1 Rod, Jan 7, 2009
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    Guys...


    Who has repainted under their engine lid cover? Mine has started to rust in a few places & I was going to touch up the tray/panel. Then I obtained the correct pop rivets which means I could remove the tray & do a really good refurb job.

    Has anyone done a refurb in place?

    What paint did you use? Satin Black?

    Any pointers would be appreciated.

    Regards

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  2. magnum

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    Mine also it's just about to start rusting too!
    I would paint it on black heat resistant paint, that is in fact satin black. The best way it would be to dismount it from the engine hood and to do first a good job with a rust preventer, like POR-15 or Rust Bullet.

    My 2 cents
     
  3. pad

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    #3 pad, Jan 7, 2009
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    If you are talking about the large section directly over the plenum, that's part of the engine lid and is not "removable". The screening and the frame around it are held in by rivets. CAREFULLY remove all the rivets and then you can seperate the screen / frame from the engine lid. You will also be able to remove the louvers. Again, be careful or you will end up needing to paint the entire engine lid. Paint the screen, frame, and louvers in black satin. - Have fun.
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  4. Rod

    Rod Formula Junior

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    Nice job...

    What paint did you use? Did you use a rust protector first? then over paint with tins of spray paint?

    Also do they fix bax on okay with pop rivits?

    Thanks

    Rood


     
  5. Rod

    Rod Formula Junior

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    Cheers are you going to remove yours or refurb in place? So heat resistant pain comes out satin black?

    Roon

     
  6. magnum

    magnum Formula Junior

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    Hi Rod.

    It would be nice to dismount the part, but after seeing the pics maybe I will paint it in place... We will see.
    The heat resistant paint normally is satin black -also in satin white or satin red or silver-. The paint must be this type because there's so much heat in the engine bay.

    Cheers
     
  7. Rod

    Rod Formula Junior

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    Thanks...

    I have now got a load of pot rivets for the rear so am going to remove from the lid!!!!

    Lets hope I can get it back on again!

    Will post pics!


     
  8. bill brooks

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    is the metal pan under the engine cover laminated? mine is starting to curl at the edges.
    i've noticed similar laminations elsewhere on the car.
     
  9. Rod

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    I am not sure on that one? I will take a close look tomorrow.. My thoughts are that it is not laminated, anyone else know for sure?

     
  10. Koskames

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    I did mine last Winter.
    It is easy to dismount but don´t forget to cover the engine, you don´t want the small sharp metallchips from drilling in youre timingbelts.
    I sandblasted it then i hade it electroplated and then powdercoted black, it should be god for a 100 years or so.
     
  11. Rod

    Rod Formula Junior

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    WoW..... Now theres an option... Powdercoated!!! I bet it looks real clean..

    A very good point regarding the metallchips from drilling, note taken!

    Thanks



     
  12. Koskames

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    #12 Koskames, Jan 10, 2009
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    I went down to the garage to take a picture of it for you.
    Just to take the cover of the car and feel the smell of it this time a year......
    Anyway flashphotos inside a garage doesn´t really justify the object.
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  13. Koskames

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    Hi Bill

    The pan is made of plain sheet metal which is put together with spotwelds (overlaping joints) and with a singel layer black spaypaint, it is made to rust!
    The curls you see on yours is presumably the paint comming off.

    Koskames
     
  14. Rod

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    Wow... Nice one!

    How clean does that look! Powder coating means very little looking after? just a wipe down?

    Have you had any other bits coated with good results?



     
  15. Koskames

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    Yes, it is really easy to keep clean.
    I haven´t done any another bits on it, infact i think this is the only needy piece I have found so far.

    But I had some rims powdercoated on another car, silvermetallic and sealed off with a high gloss clear powdercoat layer and they were almost resistat to dirt.
     
  16. bill brooks

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    i assumed as much until i noted the thickness of the paint. it appears to be a coating, hence my thoughts that it
    may be a laminate. it is too thick to be a single layer of paint.
    it is almost a 1/64" thick! that is not paint, it must be something else.
     
  17. Koskames

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    Is it possible that some previous owner did something to it?
    Could it be rust under the paint cousing it to look like this?
    It would be interesting to see, is it possible for you to take a close-up picture?
     
  18. doug328

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    #18 doug328, Jan 13, 2009
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    I left mine inplace. Scrapped the rusted areas, wire brushed them, used high temp engine primer (2 thin coats) then 2 coats of Eastwoods Under Hood Black (spray can) gives the original semi-gloss finish. That was 3 years and almost 20,000 miles ago and it still holding up great. Not the best picture as its from one on file.
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  19. Rod

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    Thats one clean engine bay! What our products did you use to get it so clean? also did you have the engine chamber repainted red? it looks real fresh?



     
  20. bill brooks

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    i still think it's some sort of alien laminate.
    once i figure out how to post pix with my new digital camera, i'll put on 'chat.
     
  21. bwassam

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    There's a company called "Eastwood Tools," or something along those lines. They sell body /working tools and also sell the correct paint for the "under the hood," color. Their catalog is free and there's other stuff in there I'm sure you guys could use.

    I am not affilated with Eastwood in any way shape or form. I do not even have an account with them.
     

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