Hello Folks, So, a lot of people ask us about the famous sticky coatings Ferrari used and still uses on interior components such as trim, bezels, switches, HVAC panels and such. That said, please allow me to explain the OEM process and coatings used: The coatings we are talking about are called "Soft Touch" coatings. These are designed to give a soft, velvet like feel. They are low gloss in sheen to help reduce glare in the car. These coatings can also be found on computer mice, TV / Stereo remote controls, etc. While these coatings are typically black in appearance, the coatings themselves are not always black. The OEM's (note, Ferrari does not make these parts, they are made by sub-contractors) use both black soft touch and clear soft touch. Black Soft Touch: This is typically used over parts such as bezels, steering column surrounds, shifter trim, etc. When this fails, you get the black mess all over your fingers. Clear Soft Touch: This is typically used over parts with illuminated graphics. The parts are first painted with a white, then a mid-gloss black, the graphics are laser etched and then the clear soft touch is applied to lower the sheen (considerably) and add the velvet feel. In some cases (such as the headlight controls and mirror controls of a 599) the soft touch is black in color and the graphics are laser etched right though the black soft touch. Graphics: The OEM's used 2 types of graphics: Silk screen (or pad printing) and laser etching. In most cases (but not all) silk screen was used for non-illuminated graphics while laser etching was used for all illuminated graphics. However, some of the seat controls of a 599 that don't illuminate were still laser etched. Removing the sticky soft touch: While I'm not going to give away all of our secrets here, if you have sticky parts and it's becoming a burden, you can use rubbing alcohol to remove the coating. Please do this with caution. Silk screen graphics will be gone once you do this and depending on what % of alcohol you use, the base paint may come off also. Please note, for parts like HVAC panels, window switches with graphics (that have a clear soft touch), it is possible to clean the clear soft touch off without damaging the base black below. Note, while this looks decent, the resulting finish will be a much higher gloss. At Sticky RX, we fully refinish parts by stripping them down, sanding (preparing the metal or plastic), re-coat with our durable, mar-resistant (hard touch) coating and then laser etch all graphics - even the ones that where silk screened. This restoration is much more durable and will outlive silk screen printing or stick on decals which we don't use. Here is one of our laser etch videos. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9OS3-0hBs[/ame] Please feel free to look us up if you have parts in need of refinishing. Thank you very much
In particular if the clear soft touch coat is bubbling or rubbed through rather than sticky, it is quite easy to just peel this top coat off. I did this with my window switches of the 550. Thereby the borders were left as they were (being fine) and only the actual actuators were peeled, so that both surfaces are side by side. I found that the visual difference (gloss) is minimal only, the main difference being (naturally) the feel. Some time earlier (years ago) I had sent the HVAC (which was bubbling after the Ferrari Dealer had left the car being in for service standing for days in the hot sun) to another (well known ) company. In what was returned apparently the top coat had as well just been peeled off and nothing else (that actually gave me the incentive to try that with the switches later). The visual appearance was indeed clearly more glossy and I assume this is/was due to whatever plastic cleaning solution used. Using a plastic cleaner for making a matt finish a few times got the visual appearance right again . The "hard plastic" feel remained, of course. For making it perfectly authentic of course a clear soft touch coat would have to be applied again. This is (in my eyes) best left to professionals. Cheers, Bernhard
Not with our process as we use the proper low gloss coating and then those panels match the rest of the refinished interior as you can see in the video
Thank you guys, much appreciated. So, above I mentioned the clear vs black soft touch coatings. Here is the head light / mirror control from a Ferrari 599. This part has black soft touch coatings and the graphics are lasered right though the soft touch. There is no way to clean off these parts and preserve the graphics - when you clean off the black soft touch, all the graphics will be gone. No other way to refinish these parts other than using laser etching just as the OEM did. That is exactly how we did it. Take a look at the before and after photos. Thanks guys Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi Everyone, This button, taken under magnification, is typical of the process Ferrari used for these backlit buttons, and it's a great example of why "clean only" can leave a lot to be desired. As you can see, the center of the button has the clear soft touch removed from use. What's underneath is the base black OEM paint which is very shiny. You can really see how reflective it is in the second picture with the microscope lights on. Unlike Dave's previous post, this buttons sticky coating CAN be removed without damaging the graphic (in most instances, if careful), but look at what you would be left with. We strip these parts down to the base plastic, apply our mar-resistant hard-touch coating, which has an excellent matte finish, then I use the laser to etch the graphic right back into the part. I cant wait to share photos of this button once it's completed, stay tuned Best Regards, Randy Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I used Easy Off oven cleaner as a kid to clean paint off model cars if the paint job didn't go well. I sprayed the parts with it and let them soak. The paint rinsed off easily thereafter leaving intact plastic. Having nothing to loose on my 355 (prior to anyone offering refinishing services) I used the same technique to pull the defective finish from the interior parts. What was left was intact plastic with a very nice semi gloss finish secondary to the molded in texture. The printed graphics were gone. I didn't repaint anything, just put it back in the car. It looked great.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't personally think the bare platic looks very good at all. Here is a photo of a 512TR door handle we received this week with a panel that has our coating for comparison. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Dave, I agree that your work is perfect. I sold my car after driving a C6 Z06 on track and don't have anything with similar problems now. This was long before there were people like yourself working making these cars look good again.
Dave - Here's one thing I don't understand about these sticky interiors; maybe you have some insight. Why did Ferrari (and Maserati) keep using the same crappy finish on interiors for ~20 years? When did they realize this stuff turned to goop -- late 90s maybe? So why was it still being used on models as recent as the California?
Hey Rick, I can only speculate as I don't work for Ferrari. But, to your point, I believe they still use the stuff today, perhaps it's better? Time will tell. We tested a soft touch out of Europe. It was very nice (I still have some sample material). I was promised all day long that it won't fail. But, I'm not ready to take the chance and I'm guessing my customers are not either.
The looks and feel are not worth the failure of the surface in a short amount of years. Really, what wrong with these automotive engineers?
Thank you, Sy Turn around varies based on many factors such as shop backlog, size of the order, etc. Please send me an email and we can discuss your specific needs dave.lelonek@**********.com Thank you and have a great day
I used Greased Lightning to do my parts in place. It went well and I was surprised the HVAC panel buttons were marked and lit through the plastic. Only the dash vents were an issue with the markings being on top of the coating. After I had things down to bare plastic I could treat everything with armoral and I was happy with it. They even make a matte finish version. If you are going for a concorso show winner, you have to get them finished.
Hello Folks, So here is a video we did to help illustrate the different types of soft touch coatings being used. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5CT9IEVAA[/ame] In the video we talk about the white of our refinished parts being brighter than OEM cleaned parts. However, we did not capture that well, but in person, the difference can be seen. PS - sorry, I talk with my hands and should not do that in videos
Sticky Rx has been contracted to correct these issues for my 550 Barchetta....at least 90% of all interior bits that tend to "turn to goo". I live in the NE so we do not get the really hot weather that may hasten the demise of these parts & my car resides in the garage...yet after 15 yrs they have started to go. I cannot say enough about how helpful Dave has been to this point....essentially walking my mechanic & myself thru the entire process. Parts have shipped and now "we will see" the finished product in a few weeks. I have reviewed his site, asked questions and feel confident that parts will be better than new. Let you know..... Jack
Folks - here is a video demonstration of our coatings chemical and mar resistance [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNpQ6mJXwZY&t=4s[/ame]
Here are a few photos of a 430 HVAC panel (before refinishing). We took these because this panel has a very high gloss base paint under the soft touch - much more than others. This is a good illustration of what you may end up with if only cleaning the parts. Also shown, is a refinished part (430 Scud) for comparison Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Can you post a photo or video of what your 355 Climate Control panel looks like after your process? Thx! Getting ready to do mine...FINALLY.