Hey everyone, I'm new here and posting mainly because I have the opportunity to buy an unlisted 2018 488 from my local dealer. This would be my first Ferrari, so normally I think I would have been forced to go the pre-owned route, or wait a rather substantial amount of time for a new one. As it was explained to me, sometimes Ferrari makes too many cars, and they will effectively gift the dealer the car, and the dealer can sell it, but they aren't allowed to list the car, and it's generally frowned upon if they sell it above sticker price. As a result I can get this 2018 for substantially less than the used and lesser spec 2017 they actualy have listed. It's a red car with a black interor, and it has most of the options I'd be after like parking sensors and rear camera, as well as the fully electric seats which I find to be quite comfortable! The only main options that seem to be missing that I would have liked are the front camera and the front lift, of which the latter is definitely more important, however measuring it against the 991.1 Turbo S I would be trading in, it seems to be about the same clearance as what I'm used to, and more clearance than when the front spoiler is down on my car. So I don't imagine either of those things would be dealbreakers for me, and they said if I was worried about the bumper that I might consider the skid plates they offer. Do you guys think those are worth the money? Anyways, I just wanted to see if you guys think this is a good opportunity to get into a new 488 now without the wait or artificial markup, or if there is something I might be missing? From what I have gathered from my research, if the market stays this way, even if I sell it in a few years, I should hopefully be able to get most if not what I paid for the car, which is what makes this attractive. Do you guys have any tips or things I should look out for? Any tips for owning or living with a 488? Anyways, apologies for the wall of text and for all the questions, but thanks if you made it this far haha! Misha
Not sure what market your in, but used 488GTB's are now available below MSRP. I just sold mine to the dealer and it has been resold for $20k below MSRP. That being said, the front lift is a big deal when it comes to resale. It will definitely impact your resale when the time comes.
Even in "hot" markets I would assume around $20k/year depreciation, potentially even more. Plus you'll never get back what you paid in taxes. If you think you would sell the car in 3-4 years, look at 3-4 year old 458 pricing for a comp. It's a great car so get it if you want to enjoy it but don't look at this as an investment, look at it as a fun toy. Low depreciation can be a bonus (if it happens) but certainly don't rely on that.
Hopefully this car is not located in Houston. I would advise you to list out deal breaker options and then colors of the exterior and interior. If this car has those listed options and colors, go for it! You will not have the wait. Please post delivery pictures!
My .02 worth says don't look at the 458 as a projection to estimate depreciation as that car is an anomaly and even it has taken a downward turn in the last year. The 488 was not as welcomed due to a myriad of reasons now combine that with numerous other factors such as greater competition and the price doesn't hold up nearly as well future prices will trend down much faster than the 458. You're also coming into the seasonal market pressures versus Spring time where values are at the tops. All things to consider. "New" ordered to your personal spec is an exciting experience, driving the car within 18 mo's certainly has it's value as well so it'll depend on what you're looking for. No one can answer that for you they can only tell you what they did
if it's the right combo of color and options then grab it......nobody knows what tomorrow will bring.
Okay thanks for all the tips guys! I went for it, and will just enjoy the car and try not to focus on depreciation. The spec is honestly great for me, the stuff I would have liked was a touch nitpicky because as cool as the front camera would be I don't see a ton of 488s spec'd with that. As far as the front lift, it would have been more of a big deal, but after doing some research it seems that people without the lift have been faring just fine in most cases so I'm not really worried about that. I am having them install skidplates under the bumper just to be safe. I'm located in the DC/MD/VA region by the way, apologies for not clarifying that in the initial post! I guess the key is to just enjoy the car and hope I get most of my money back when I go to sell it/trade it in, but I won't be doing anything like not driving it just to keep miles low or anything like that. I promised myself that if I ever had the opportunity to get into a car like this, that I would do it for myself and for the enjoyment, and that's what I plan to do! Ferrari apparently have a track day coming soon, it's about 2 hours away from me, and I got an invitation to that, so I figure I might as well do that and really learn about the car there. It will also by my first time on a track, but apparently they will have instructors there, so I'm pretty excited for that. I realize I have derailed a fair bit from the original topic, but have any of you partaken in a Ferrari track day, and if so what was your experience?
Congrats on purchase: you'll find there are few new questions here and indeed as well as those in this section there's a whole section devoted to tracking - it always worth a look before posting
Congratulations on your purchase. Since you mentioned that you haven't driven on a track before, don't forget to check your insurance policy to ensure you understand what coverage you have. Many policies exclude track activities. And make sure you drive sufficient miles on the street to get used to the car before undertaking sustained high speed activities. With that said, enjoy!
FYI, Ferrari will not build a car without a customer associated with it. This is why you don't see Ferrari dealers with loads of new cars sitting, which isn't the case for other exotics like McLaren or Lamborghini. Somebody ordered that car, then walked away from the purchase. They aren't allowed to publicly list it because Ferrari doesn't allow them to. They can only publicly list cars that are used and at least 6 months old. Congrats on the new car purchase, expect around $30-40K depreciation per year, but heavily dependent on options and color combo.
I also went on your dealer's website and the 2017 488 GTB you're referring to has almost every single option available, hence their asking price.
Thanks for the tips on that, I have full comprehensive with Geico and I will ask them about that. If they don't cover track use, do you have a company you might be able to recommend for that?
Thanks! I guess at the end of the day I just want to make sure I got a good deal on the car. I did quite a bit of research on the car, and it seemed like a "jump on this" kind of opportunity to me, but I'm not an expert on any of this stuff by any means. Given that this is a brand new 2018 488, do you guys think that I snagged a good deal on this one? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
That car has thousands of CF options that you'll never see a dime back on resale, but again, that all depends on the price they sold it to you for and what you like. Feel free to message me for further discussion if that works better for you.
Not always the case. Numerous examples where a dealer says that they received a surprise car that they weren't expecting. Usually, it's higher MSRP. I've probably had 3 488's offered to me by dealers that fit this type of situation. I've seen more than a few times cars showing "sold" on their windshield sitting at the dealer but they really are for sale.
No way a $350K car (high MSRP) shows up as a "surprise" without somebody knowing. The receiving dealers are notified and it's shown on the factory window sticker who the receiving dealer is at time of entry into the USA. When one dealer can't sell a car (customer walked away) and gives it to a sister dealer or typical dealer exchange, that's it with Ferrari. Dealer had that car allocation and ordered the 488 instead of losing it, simple as that and customer walked out, or couldn't get financing approved, etc. Dealers typically provide all sorts of reasons to tell a story... Cars showing up as sold has been a show at every single dealer/brand I can think of, except maybe Toyota and Honda. Getting back on track, car spec looks decent to me. All depends on purchase price to determine a "deal" in the conventional sense.
I sent you a PM! But yeah I got the car at MSRP, based of the research I did on the available cars to buy it looked like it was a good deal to me, they offered me a good price on my trade in car too, so I went for it, hope I didn't mess up haha!
If you love the car and are able to start enjoying it sooner rather than later then you didn't "mess up". Plenty of folks who wish they could have been in your shoes. Enjoy it.
If you ask me, you got a good deal. It's a fantastic spec and you got a brand new 488. Enjoy the car, it's a fantastic purchase!
Thanks so much guys. I can't tell you how nervous all of this has made me, which is kind of frustrating because I always thought that if I ever were fortunate enough to be in the position to get a Ferrari that it would be pure happiness haha. Even a few years back this kind of a move would have been unfathomable to me, so it's actually all a bit surreal, but I appreciate all of your guys' input and support on this. It looks like you have a nice group on this forum, and I appreciate you taking the time to ease the fears of a relative noob to this world haha.
You got a great deal without the wait. Mine should be in the $303-304 range when invoiced. To me the CF is a real plus as I just plain like it!!
Ah nice! Right around the same price, what's the spec on yours and when are you getting it? Also I feel like CF is such a guilty pleasure of mine, I definitely don't NEED it on the car, but my god I do love it hahah.
I took delivery of mine on August 24th. It's Rosso Scuderia with a similar spec to yours but diamond cut wheels. You are going to love the car. The engineering is implacable. This is my second Ferrari. I started with a 2010 458 Italia. I thought the Italia was the best; this is better. Let us know your initial impressions after driving it.
Don't remember the last time I saw a "0" beside the Other Options spot on the sticker! Congrats. Enjoy the car.