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Unofficial 308 tool kit specifications

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  1. robertgarven

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    Im still looking for a spark plug tool in markus bottom kit, I can trade the later one if someone has one?

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  2. nerofer

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    I don't have that "Tommy bar" type in stock, but I could be interested in a 328 spark plug tool [for 12mm plugs, 18mm inside of the crown], as I have a 328 tool roll in the process of being completed.

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  3. piezo

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    These two types of spark plug wrench are really rare to come by. The later 308 type is much easier in comparison!
     
  4. nerofer

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    Oh yes indeed, Steven. But I am in no hurry; only if one is available, I would be glad to know. I have time, as both my 328 have their complete tool roll already.

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  5. 2281GT

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    #405 2281GT, Mar 8, 2016
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    Yes, the 14/14 is a UTEMA , the others are KRAVM with Ferrari lettering. If someone has a KRAVM 14/14 for sale, please offer !
    Yes, the pliers is black Ferrari/Kravm

    Yes the drivers are 1 large and three small ones, but there are two different sizes, one "thick" and one "thin" small slot one - see pictures attached.

    The wrenches are Polytools , no Ferrari lettering.
    I don't need that "thommy bar" ????? Are you sure ? IMO all GT4 have had that spark plug tool ??? (production date November 1979 , first registration Januar 1980)
    If so, what kind of spark plug tool would be correct for that tool kit ?
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  6. nerofer

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    Well...you have asked for a "shopping list", didn't you?

    As for your "Mondial" tool roll:
    - A 14/14 combination wrench from Kravm would be better matched to the others wrenches in your serie, although you would have to pay attention to the lettering on both side of the handles to be exactly consistent with the others: I understand that one side has "Chrom Vanadium Kravm", the other "Ferrari" so ideally you would look for the same presentation, and same finish of the Chrom also (shiny or dull).
    Good news is that your "Utema" is very rare, so has some value; bad news is that the 14/14 Kravm is not very easy to find either...

    As for your 208 Turbo tool roll:
    I think it would be in tip-top shape with a large flat blade screwdriver, to have the same screwdriver set than your "Mondial" tool roll (= large Philips, large Flat; small Philips, small Flat)
    Good news is that you should be able to sell any of your small flat blade srewdrivers easily, they are very rare (I could even be interested, but that's not the point here). Bad news is that a large flat blade matched to the rest of the set is very rare also.

    As for the GT4 tool roll, let's wait for the experts...

    Rgds
     
  7. 2281GT

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    Thank you, Bruno, but the srewdrivers at the Mondial tool roll are a little bit darker that the drivers for the 208t, wich are a sort of "nochiola", a little bit lighter than the others.
    It could be difficult to find the matching brown ... :-(

    So ... my shopping list is becomming longer and longer.
    14/14 Kravm wrench
    light brown large blade driver
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  8. piezo

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    Mondial kit:
    As Bruno said, most Kravm sets are with Kravm 14/14. The Utema N.1200 14/14 are spotted with the Ferrari wrench set with circle around numbers and a blue handle pliers. But I'd say it is not really worrying.

    208 kit:
    Before this type of screwdriver appear, the orange translucent type does not really have a big flat head with particularly bigger handle similar to the big Philips, they are usually just a bigger flat head. As your kit is one of the earliest with the dark red translucent handle, could it be done similarly? I don't know, could be. Or follow Bruno's suggestion, can't be wrong that way.

    GT4 kit:
    You need the tommy-bar spark plug wrench. I was talking about the spark plug extension tool, sorry about the confusion, see posts #23 #24 #26 #33-36 in this thread. You don't need it, it's pre-1977. Ok the wrenches, they are Polytools? They appear without parallelogram and the depression is not round-ended. Do you have closeup pictures? Interesting!
     
  9. nerofer

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    Well, yes you are right Markus, usually the earlier screwdrivers of the eighties are a bit more "Nocciola" than the later version; this is already difficult, but furthermore - and sorry if I am repeating myself one more time - the flat blade ones are much more difficult to find than the Philips; I have a few Philips in stock right now, four or five, large and small, enough to try to match the color of the handles at best for different tool rolls, but the flat blade ones are really, really difficult to find.
    Any combination wrench is difficult, but the "Kravm" is the "less difficult".

    Rgds
     
  10. 2281GT

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    Do you mean the "Spark Plug Extension Removing Spanner" ?
    Sorry, but I don't kinow, what tool at the 308GT4 tool kit is not necessary ? Could you please post a photo (again) of the superfluous tool ?

    I will take closeup pictures next days. The toolrolls are at the cars at the Hall, where to go to is not a thing of 5 minutes.
     
  11. 2281GT

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    THAT is a positive statement ! :)
     
  12. nerofer

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    Have I told you that I found one [a 14/14 combination wrench by Kravm], completely by chance, as I was not looking for one, on "Le Bon Coin" (= the french "Craiglist") last year for 10 euros...Packing and Post included?

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  13. 2281GT

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    Please do me the favor and catch the next one for me.
     
  14. nerofer

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    Will do, as I usually do when I see such a thing...but it doesn't happen every week!

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    Spark Plug Extension Removing Spanner = spark plug extension tool that I said. And, it is THE tool not needed/necessary in your 80 GT4 kit...

    Here it is this thing:
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    To make it more clear, only pre-1977 GT4 kits should have this thing.
     
  16. 2281GT

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    Thank you very much, Steven !
    I didn't ever seen that thing. I know, it is not in my GT4 tool roll, nor was ever.
    What is it used for ?
     
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    As the name goes, it's for removing the spark plug extension.

    Just scroll back to the first two pages of this thread and read those few posts (#24 to #36) I quoted earlier, more detail with pictures.
     
  18. 2281GT

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    I've read the postings ... twice. I do not understand, how that tool works, nor for what it should be, but that is not important for me, because I don't have it and I don't need it.

    Thank you again for your help to educate me the science of Ferrari tools. I don't think to get a Master of that study. :)
     
  19. ME308

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    same here ... but anyway, I want to know how it works ...

    so Steven ... ;)
     
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    It's too bad I don't have it too. I guess we need robertgarven to test use that thing and then report here :D
     
  21. 2281GT

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    #421 2281GT, Mar 12, 2016
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    I found another 14/14 combination wrench ! :)
    "Polytools Italy" fitting my 308 GT4 Tool roll.

    So far - so well , but ...

    the shopping list is rising:
    I need a Polytools wrench set (complete but the 14/14 combination wrench), because the other wrenches of the roll are "no name" Chrom Vanadium - no brand, nor Polytools what they have to be.
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    Ohh, so not a new Polytools type. But the 14/14mm combination is rather rare compared with the CV Special one and seldom you see one for sale. I have a complete Polytools wrench set out of an incomplete kit that I'm considering to part out. Thoughts thoughts thoughts...
     
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    #424 Martin308GTB, Mar 21, 2016
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    John,

    absolutely great and comparable in quality with early 308 tool kits.
    And it's also not difficult to source those original tools, since they are still in current production in India and easily obtainable through the Darknet.

    That's what I found out via a quick research.

    You could also save some weight while passing on the separate first-aid kit, which is mandatory over here, since it's included in that tool kit. Though I'm no specialist of this. Maybe some physicians should chime in here. At least the band-aid looks period correct.

    Best Regards
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  25. piezo

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    That's a really awesome classic tool kit you've shared! :D

    How about this awesome modern tool kit that's been re-listed a few times with different contents and price tags? Seriously guys, who are willing to buy this kit for the money, please raise your hands!
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrari-308Gts-328-Gts-Tool-Kit-and-Jack-Bag-/272175630953

    Don't forget there are still good deeds out there, such as the below kit with bulb holder and emergency light:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ferrari-308-tool-kit-All-Original-In-Very-Good-Condition-Work-Light-Emergency-/262335457502
     

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