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Pete

 

Japan '04 already showed that -- Ferrari left RB out in the rain while bringing in Michael from the back ... which pretty well ruined Rubens' race. It's Michael's team -- he brought many of them with him from Benneton.

Really? Minardi calls their car the "PS" (as in "what comes after everything else")?
What's next? The Jordan POS-05?

 

I cant wait to see how toyota and red bull will fair, I dont know why but I have a feeling but those teams will do well this year

-Seb
BREATHE Supercars

 

Ferrari 1 - 2 at Imola!!!!

 

Remember the start of 1994 guys?. Senna had little or no points leading up to Imola ... MS is in exactly the same situation. The only difference is that he has not changed team and is not as emotional.

But in both cases the expected champion was struggling with a below par car and a new younger man was putting the pressure on (Alonso in this case).

Lets just hope MS is handling the pressure better than Senna did ... 'cause I still believe that that was the major cause of the accident.

Sorry to be morbid ... but my father just reminded me of the similarities and he and I will be both glad when Imola is over and everybody is okay, etc. ... and a great race was had

Pete

 

Indeed a very similar situation and I have worried about Michael, but I'm sure he can handle it better and the cars are now a lot safer.

 

Imola - no points - the similarities end there... Senna and MS are two very different cats in terms of personalities, and MS has accomplished everything that can be done in F1, and he doesn't have the internal demons that Senna always seemed to be dealing with...

 

Michael Schumacher is the greatest racer to ever drive a race car.

Senna was above average for F1 standards and enjoyed a few good years.

 

Hook, line, and sinker... but MS also doesn’t have a car with a steering shaft waiting to sheer off and make the car uncontrollable in the most dangerous part of the track… Now that the Kiddi Korps is growing up it looks like MS is having a bit more trouble, wins come easy when you are in a dominating car and have zero competition… Even the Yankees lost this year.

Come next Sunday I’ll be pulling for MS no doubt (gotta keep the 308s resale value high), but I can never really respect someone who two weeks later (may 15) at Monaco is jumping out and down on the podium after he wins, with Berger standing there nearly in tears. That was Senna’s race and no matter how many titles MS wins, he'll forever be an ***** IMO, I mean come on, show an ounce of respect. I can cheer for him, hope he wins for the SF, but I can never be a devoted fan, etc.

After Australia and Malaysia I thought Ferrari still had a good chance, but now I’m getting the impression more and more that Alonso is just gonna run away with it. The Scuderia hasn’t been an underdog in half a decade, and I’m just not sure they’re ready to pull a Rocky IV on Renault.

 

That particular incident I can actually understand and overlook. After all MS cried for Senna years later at Monza. There is other stuff MS pulled I can't get over with though and feel the same as you do: Highest respect for the driver, but no fan of the person.

 

I think Im one of the rare ones who enjoys your loyalty to Maranello and the faith you have in MS and his crew to always pull out a victory. We both agree where JPM should wind up...

Im not the best Senna fan ( I like him, think he was one of the greatest, but I will always put Ferrari first, ) but come on, above average? Give the guy a little more credit. To be honest I think this above average label on Senna is a little childish.

Speaking of Senna, the topic of the thread now, and the comparisons to that awful weekend in 94, the post about the comparisons is stellar. I like your view of you and your Dad about Senna and MS now with MS and Fernando. I do not think we are seeing history repeat itself however. McLaren's switch to Ford power and Williams' Mansell and Prost running away with it is a little different. MS is off a championship, has every title he could want, is not tryin to regain his name. Senna was unfortunately a wreck and trying to regain his fame. Shuey is so methodical and not so in your face passionate. As stated, I believe the urge running through Senna's veins were as much a fault for the accident as a steering mechanism or mystery metal chuck in the road. But in Shuey's case, there is no reason to think, " I gotta do this, I gotta get back my throne, I have to define this team now."

If he doesn't make it this year, come back strong next year, win it all, then retire Shuey.

RocketBoy

 

Senna was a superb driver and his tragic death has may everyone forget that he could a complete ass on and off the track... I think MS has had many behaviorial issues too - but never had the God complex that Senna had, the closest we have in F1 at the moment is JPM. Maybe fatherhood will temper that somewhat...

 

He still has: Melbourne 2005

God complex: Remember Hockenheim 1999? MS was beamed onto the big screen TVs in the stadium to salute his fans from his home. I remember the newspaper literally comparing him with God talking to his people. It was a weird scene to say the least.

 

I saw Schumacher yesterday at Fiorano, and he told us that they are improving fast, and it all looks pretty good, but they have a lot of work with the tyres.

They are testing, testing, testing ALL DAY LONG .....
Schumi was really working yesterday at Fiorano !!!

 

I’m by no means singling you out Jagbuff, just brought a good point to mind… the Senna – JPM comparison is drawn a lot, but I just have a difficult time understanding it. Senna hemmed and hawed, but he actually won, a lot for that matter, and had some ungodly rain performances and pole times. JPM whines as much or more than Senna, but really doesn’t do much on the track. The winning being the key part… you can justify the theatrics if you are fighting hand over foot every weekend, year in year out. JPM should quiet down for awhile and try letting is actual performance catch up to his mouth’s. Senna had his rants and moments for sure, but at least he backed them up.

I can’t really describe my MS stance that well, I don’t quite think he is an ***** for the rest of his life, he was in Monaco 94 though. I think I’ll just always have this uneasiness about him, like he is hiding a lot of his true thoughts all the time. And based on his success, I for one think it would be extremely interesting to hear what he actually has to say about F1, a race move, etc. It isn’t impossible to have emotions nowadays and be sponsor friendly, look at Rossi’s post race interview last week (or any for that matter of his). When Rossi wins, my neighbor and I go crazy, fist pumps, cheers, etc. “ Sete’s angry, but that’s the races…” is a nice (corporate) way of saying, tough sh$t.

 

Fully agreed on both points.

 

...don't believe everything you read in the newspaper or on the web

 

I saw him on TV at that race. But it was the newspapers that compared him to God or Moses talking from the mountain. Also I don't know who was responsible for that silly transmission, might not have been MS, but Mr 20% or somebody else.

 

senna above average? maybe the big understatement of the decade!

as much as rooted against him he was he was superhuman in a car. does anyone remember the famous incar lap at monaco where he went out and captured the pole. havoc was not even close to describing what was going on!!

as a result of the tragic day, michael will never really know!

 

Nevertheless a true statement. Just like MS is above average as well. The real question is how much above average?

 

1) Mchael Schumacher - No doubt in my mind!
2) Tazio Nuvolari
3) Juan-Manuel Fangio

Senna was good, but he does not even come close to the greatest of all time. For the record, Senna ranks lower than Stirling Crauford Moss, the greatest driver never to win the World Championship. Senna was just about as good as Niki Lauda.

 

I disagreed with most of what you said until the last sentence. Lauda is a racing God to me, so ok, Senna is on an equal level. I can live with that.

 

Without doubt that Niki Lauda is the Gods God , it was nicknamed "the computer" and for good reason.
The debate should be about how Niki compares to a sacred Ferrari driver , meaning Gilles Villeneuve , Gilles was absolutely extraordinary on a dry track and was like a diablo on a wet one .
Michael , in my opinion gets the 3rd position.

 

Ferrari will wipe the floor with the competition at Imola; I think the cooler temps will help the Bridgestones tremendously; three weeks between Bahrain and Imola allowed Ferrari to put some desparetly needed testing into the F2005. Don't forget in Bahrain the car was just born and still MS was able to hang with Alonso's Renault.