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Updated Insurance Premiums

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Domenicmac, May 29, 2024.

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  1. Domenicmac

    Domenicmac Rookie

    May 12, 2011
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    Chicago
    I did a search but nothing recent. I just purchased a 2018 488 and I just received my insurance quote from Hegarty. Is $3500 a year ridiculous?
    Agreed Value at $270k
    500K policy limit
    I am 48 years old
    No accidents no tickets in at least 10 years.
    Policy attached

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  2. mkraft3003

    mkraft3003 Formula 3
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    Aug 20, 2016
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    Insurance is specific to the individual. There are so many variables. What one person is quoted has nothing to do with the other person. Even ZIP Codes can make a big difference in premiums. Best thing to do is contact ann agent and have them shop around and that will tell you if it is reasonable or not.
     
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  3. 05F430F1

    05F430F1 F1 Rookie

    Oct 22, 2005
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    Yes, and actually zip code is one of the biggest factors in rate… and 3500 doesn’t sound that bad at all for stated value ins


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  4. mkraft3003

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    Some other variables along with zip code: kids in household, will car be in a garage, security in home, gated community, claim history, driving history, other cars in household, miles driven, prior cars owned, household income, etc.

    Again, insurance premiums are very specific to the individual. Someone in Des Moines with no kids will have a very different rate to someone in Miami with 2 kids in the household (regardless of driving age).
     
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  5. Domenicmac

    Domenicmac Rookie

    May 12, 2011
    15
    Chicago
    Thank you. I just traded out a Mclaren 570 which only cost me about $2k a year similar policy limits but with an agreed value of $150K
    Single male
    No Kids
    But I live In Chicago
    Car is garaged in my building
    Building is secure
     
  6. todd cloud

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    Jun 21, 2019
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    This is correct
    Zip code is crucial
    I recently moved from 30188 to 37363 and my insurance premiums were cut IN HALF
    Auto, classic car, life, home, umbrella, everything
    State Farm in both zip codes
    Crazy
     
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  7. marcmc8867

    marcmc8867 Formula 3

    Jul 27, 2004
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    I would guess Chicago is boosting it. I’m in NC.

    I find Hagerty generally reasonable but I also classify each car as a collector car with relatively low miles (1000-2500 per year spending on which Ferrari), have enough cars on the policy for discount, etc.

    My recently sold F8 Spider and 812 GTS with high agreed value based on market were like close to 2500 each if I remember correctly.
     
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  8. mkraft3003

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    So you were insuring something valued at 150k and paid 2k a year. You are now insuring something worth 270k and your new premium is 3500. It appears based on simple math that is 100% correct. Based on nothing else changing you were being charged .013 per dollar you are insuring. 150k x .013 = $1950. 270k x .013 = $3510. Not sure what is ridiculous about the new premium.
     
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  9. Snewton94024

    Snewton94024 Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2015
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    Silicon Valley
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    I think this quote is definitely in the "ball park". I did my own research and found Hagerty to be the highest (I live in Silicon Valley) but only about 25% higher. Hagerty has a very good reputation on claims handling which is another important factor.
     
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  10. Mrpseudonym

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    Yeah and countries. Global forum and all that..
     
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  11. mkraft3003

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    Out of curiosity, how are insurance rates down under? I know taxation is high but no clue on insurance rates.
     
  12. Mrpseudonym

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    I look at it as a percentage of the value of the car. If you can get a year’s insurance for under 1% of the value of the car that’s an ok deal.
    Cars cost more down here though.
    To put numbers to that, say a well spec’d 488 is A490k (USD323k) getting insurance under A4.9k (USD3.2k) would be ok

    And yes our taxes are higher 49% thanks for reminding me .. oh and our salaries are lower too.. now you’ve made me sad
     
  13. Get a broker.

    Don't ask us.

    We know nothing about you.
     
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  14. mkraft3003

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    But you do have some of the nicest people on earth, beautiful landscape, great beer and beautiful woman. One of the top places I’ve visited.
     
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  15. OSUferrari

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    5 years ago that is way high. Now that is about what I pay for my 488 when out of storage. But I only pay 100% coverage for - fraction of the year. In Denver

    I have nothing on my record and no claims in over 20 years. Insurance (auto and home) have gone up a lot over the last 3 years.
     
  16. Snapshift

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    State Farm insurance currently is the world's largest private car insurance company and owns about 17% of Hagerty as an "investment". I considered insurance with Hagerty transfer on a 458 and had a previous record with them on my 430 which I thought was reasonable but when I obtained a bid for the 458 it was almost tripled the 430. I contacted my local State Farm insurance agent and asked for their estimate and it was even more reasonable than the 430 was with Hagerty. They had no problem with an agreed upon value. and also loss of value agreement if damaged but repairable. It pays to shop around. It is totally ZIP Code dependent among all the other variables mentioned above and State Farm may not insure in all states. Shop around, it is your best bet.
     
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  17. Mrpseudonym

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    Down here it also varies month to month and quarter to quarter. There might be a quarter where insurer x needs to make a number. A poorly priced policy just means they don’t want your business at that time.
     
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  18. HMB-Dino

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    2013 458 Italia, $200k agreed value, $0 deductibles, secure (alarmed) metal building garage, Chubb $1700/yr Monterey CA
     
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  19. Eric C

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    2017 488 Spider
    $330,000 agreed value
    $260 / month
    American Modern Collector Car Insurance

    No restrictions
     
  20. mkraft3003

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    Does it cover driveway scrapes? :) Btw, everything resolved with the redo and the lift kit?
     
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  21. Eric C

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    lol

    Yeah. Everything is finally squared away and I'm able to drive the car without any issues.

    I still need to have someone come out and do a bunch of landscaping to fix the mess that was created.
     
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  22. SD455TA

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    I too have American Modern as my carrier through Heacock Agency. Premium is .63% of declared value amount and a $10,000 deductible. I self insure a good portion of it. I have not had any claims and have been with them for many years now. I forget how many. I was glad that they kept my premiums the same as last year given whats going on in the insurance market.
     
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  23. vraa

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    Insurance is so variable even between carriers, you have to shop around every year at minimum

    Safeco (renewal) Auto $3,815 Home $3,033 Umb $208 TTL $7,056
    Hanover Auto $3,008 Home $5,227 Umb $183 TTL $8,418
    Chubb Auto $4,496 Home $9,361 Umb $353 TTL $14,210

    After running the pdfs through some llm

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  24. Mrpseudonym

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    Do you have to quote all your mods? They make a big difference down here, your car would probably be uninsurable
     
  25. Eric C

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    Lol no. It's collector car insurance. They already assume the cars the insure are modified and have a built in buffer to cover cost of modifications.

    I had them when I totalled my f355. They paid out for all my medications plus agreed value.
     
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