Urgent help needed on 1995 F355 starting issue

Hi All,

The new owner of my beautiful 1995 had it transported to San Francisco from San Diego yesterday. When they got to his house, the car would not fire up. The battery was fully charged and on tender prior day. There was an issue that was resolved by my shop due to the previous shop not torqueing down the camshaft bolt during the major and the pulley moving off TDC when the new AC belt was installed. My shop worked through the night to drop the engine enough to Loctite and properly torque the bolt. It was all put back and fired up fine and was loaded on the transport. The car has been meticulously maintained and it have never in my ownership failed to start. Anything they can check? It is still in the transport and has to be removed this morning. Any stoogies in the Livermore area could provide assistance?

Thanks!

 

The small wire going to the starter if its not cranking at all

 

From I was told, it is cranking but not starting. I mentioned to make sure the battery was well charged since it may have been discharged during the marathon crankshaft bolt fix if the door was ajar or something. Also gas was at 2nd to last notch since we could get t to a gas station prior to the transport arriving. I asked Mark to add more gas when goes to the car this morning in case of altitude changes and what not may have affected fuel flow with low tank. I'll have him jump on FChat to provide more details.

 

New owner often means not getting the start & alarm sequence correct - just maybe ?

 

Well, it is a 1995 so no immobilizer issue.

If it is cranking you are down to two things:

Gas
Spark

They accidentally disconnect the fuel pump while tearing into the motor? Check the fuel pump fuse?

Ignition wires all in place? ECU connected?

Just some random thoughts.

Good luck.

 

It is a 1995,OBD 1, so alarm other than after-market.

 

Nice thoughts...

Car started and shake down drive went well after service and prior to loading onto the truck. I also feel probably low gas or battery too low and ECU not happy. Thanks for the providing more areas to verify.

 

Is it okay to depress gas pedal to start if flooded like other older cars? I mentioned to add gas and depress gas pedal while starting if it was initially started with gas pedal down and flooded.

 

Yes, it will go into clear flood mode and cut injector pw

 

Cool ... Thanks!

 

Possible fuel issue... not getting fuel pressure...

air in lines after engine out?
Fuel pump went south due to very low fuel?

 

Is the fuel line from the filter going to the front position on the top of the fuel block? I made that mistake. The fuel lines swapped spots when I put it back together.

 

Car fired up and ran fine prior to loading on transport and was told it sounded great. Found Fuel was really low on the car when it arrived and thought this was the issue. They added 2 gallons and it was just at 1/4 mark and it sounded like it wanted to turn over. They added 5 more gallons of fuel, but still won't start. They are checking for other possibilities like fuel pump fuse or possible fuel pump issue. They said they don't hear the fuel pump noise when car starts (not sure how this sounds myself).

Where is the fuel pump fuse? They cannot locate it...

 

On my 1997, the fuses for the fuel pump is in the passenger footwell. #21 and #23. Not sure if 1995 is the same.

- Tom
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Thanks! I just sent them a message to check the passenger side footwell if it is there..

 

I have gone through two of these fuel issues. One is a fuel relay, the other is Gobble's swapped fuel lines. If it was running before, and it is not now, then fuel fuse, fuel relay, or fuel pump itself.

 

Mitchell some of the 95's had 2 pumps and some have 1 pump. Were the early 95's built like the 348 using 2.7 and 2 pumps then later 05's transitioning to 5.2 and 1 ecu with 1 pump? That was a weird experiment because Ferrari went back to 2 ecus and 2 pumps on the 360

 

Carl... thanks for you for assisting Mark and Jonathan on the issue. There is only so much troubleshooting one can do when the car is in a cramped enclosed trailer. They are looking at taking it to a shop today for further diagnosis. Poor F355 misses home.

 

They cannot push it off the transporter?

 

Since it was a "marathon" session, perhaps an electrical connection was not fully seated.

The car is just getting even because you replaced it with a Jaguar...

 

LOL...

It was quite late night when the transport reached SF and the driveway was very steep. They would have needed more guys to help, but was already very late. The transport took the car to their headquarters in Lucerne where Mark went up on Sunday to help troubleshoot.

 

Kevin hit it on the head Vas. We all have special feelings for our cars, who's to say that they don't have reciprocal thoughts for us? The Jag was the first dagger, sending her away was the last straw...

Henry

 

She is acting like a new puppy that doesn't want to get out of her crate when she goes to the new owner. I agree... I took very special care of the F355 and now she has separation anxiety (as I do now too). We did a follow the leader with the Jag and the F355 on Friday prior to heading to the shop for the AC belt and the F355 looked so awesome with those beautiful lines. I have to say that the F355 is more attractive than the F-Type R. People turn their heads and look at the Jag, but pull their cameras out for the F355.

 

Hello everyone,

My apologies for not posting this thread originally and having Vas do it. I am the new owner of Vas' pristine F355 which I have yet to receive. I can spare you all the details but Vas has done an excellent job describing the issue to a tee.

Long story short, the car will be transported to SF Motorsports in San Rafael, CA this Thursday where she will be inspected before heading home to the East Bay. Hopefully, the issue is not that big and can be resolved quickly (knock on wood).

A very big thanks to Vas, Carl, Adam (ACE Motorsports), Jonothan (Aurora Motorsports) for helping diagnosis the issue and getting her to fire up without having it on the lift.

Note: We tried everything basic to diagnosis the issue which were.

1. The car has a quarter of a tank of gas upon arrival, - we added 7 gallons and she almost started but nothing.
2. Checked the fuel pump fuses (both okay) Then checked all fused (still good)
3. Checked the fuel pump relays (looked good but we couldn't visually tell as the pins didnt seem burnt and we didn't have a tester to test the wires)
4. Swapped the matching number fuel pump relays around (still did not work) However, we did hear a slight 'hum' from the fuel pump which we did not hear upon initial start up.

- Mark

 

Mark,
I'm sure you know, but you are in good hands with SF Motorsports. Is this your first F-Car?