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US to Euro bumper conversion...any DYI instructions and guidelines?

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  1. Nuno Andrade

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    Fchaters I have read some 10 year old posts on the subject. Are there any recent ones with instructions or guidelines ....special supports to use, etc.?


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  3. BillyD

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    As I recall the rear mounts were modified with a cutoff wheel to elongate the holes. I made a new mount for the front out of 3/4 inch bar that I had around. Since the bumper is plastic and it’s just there for show it didn’t need a beefy mount.
    I think the Euro bumpers really improve the looks.
    Good luck
     
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  4. BillyD

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    Didn't Rennspeed or some other Porsche supplier make fiberglass replicas that fit the original mounts? I bought mine for Euro Spares and thought price and shipping was fair, but that was almost a decade ago.
     
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    Which 3x8 are you talking about?
     
  6. Nuno Andrade

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    308 GTS QV 1983...sorry I forgot to mention it before
     
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  8. BigTex

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    Well, based upon nothing is the same between the two systems, it's pretty straight forward after that!

    Then you need a new front grill to match….
     
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  13. Nuno Andrade

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    Im evaluating...so, for the rear bumper there is nothing needed?
     
  14. chris1866

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    Berlinetta Motorcars make some Fiberglass euro replicas that bolt up to the US mounts, so there are no "permanent" modifications required.
    Install is tedious and requires some shimming, but much easier than trying to fit the "real deal", plus they are significantly lighter since they are just fiberglass shells.
    Don't recall the exact figure, but they are not cheap.
     
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  15. BillyD

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    Correct on rear USA big bumper to Euro small plastic bumper conversion, just modify existing mounting pads by elongating holes.

    Sounds like you have a new to you stock 308QV GTS. I think I did all the mods most people do to their 308, here's my list in order I'd do:

    Get rid of the cats and get a performance exhaust to give it that Ferrari sound:
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ferrari+308+on+dyno&&view=detail&mid=5503CC261FC5EAD222E95503CC261FC5EAD222E9&rvsmid=8F88197147EFC79998D58F88197147EFC79998D5&FORM=VDQVAP

    Suspension drop and rebuild if needed, they look so much better with less space between tire and wheel well

    Bigger wheels and tires if currently Metric wheels

    Euro bumpers and grill with driving lights

    Aluminum pedals

    Mine before and after, sadly I sold it. ;-(





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  16. Hannibal308

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    How did you do your front bumper?
     
  17. BillyD

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    I used some 1 inch bar stock I had around and made some simple brackets. Bumpers weigh practically nothing so was a very simple design.
     
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    I bought this set of Euro bumpers from a guy who had it done by a local fiberglass shop who has the molds for both front and rear bumpers. The shop is about half hour drive from me. The guy I bought it from also made me a bracket as you can see from the pics, the large tube goes in to the original US bumper shock bracket, the flat plate is welded to the large tube, the smaller tube goes in to the hole of the flat plate where you can adjust the depth then you can spot weld the it on to the flat plate, then the front bracket is where the Euro front bumper is attached to, and the last pic is the rear Euro bumper.

    I spoke to the shop who made this and he said he can also make the US style bumpers out of fiberglass which I’m thinking of doing if I want to keep the original US look bumper out of fiberglass. If there’s an interest maybe we can do a group buy to keep the cost down. Just a thought, any interest?

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  19. Nuno Andrade

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    Mike, How much are they charging? I can probably be part of the group if they are at an accessible price. Thanks


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  20. miketuason

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    Not sure how much to make the US bumpers out of fiberglass, I still have to take my original US and show it to them.
    I did paid $300 for the each of the Euro bumper though.
     
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    I’m in for a euro set if your guy does them again...
     
  22. miketuason

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    Ok I will ask them about making some tomorrow. By the way, the fiberglass shop did not make the bracket, it was the fella I bought the bumpers from, you might have to make your own.
     
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  23. Nuno Andrade

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    Can we have the dims used for the brackets? Confirm the price please and I may be in as well for the Euro bumpers


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    Hey Mike, add me to the list as well. If we need a group buy to get the manufacturing started, put me down for a set.

    Thanks!
     
  25. miketuason

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    Nuno, I’m sorry but what do you mean by dims?

    Ok I will call tomorrow and get some info.
     
  26. Cuddy K

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    Dimensions...
     
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  27. miketuason

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    Ok thanks for clearing that up. I will call the guy who made the bracket and ask him for the dim or if he can make some more or I can just measure mine and give you the dim.
     
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  28. Hannibal308

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    All FYI...fiberglass front euro bumpers are $425 and rears $400 with free shipping on line...
     

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