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us version vs european version?

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  1. Eddie.h

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    #1 Eddie.h, Sep 18, 2021
    Hi. Is there a way to tell if my 1983 Mondial QV is a US or European version? I noticed there is a difference in some of the parts. The owner’s manual that came with the car says US version, but after multiple owners not sure it is the original. The identification labels that should be on the driver’s door are gone. Thanks


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  2. Steve Magnusson

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  3. Eddie.h

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    #3 Eddie.h, Sep 18, 2021
    Wow. Thanks Steve. The decoder worked great. So my car is a Europe version despite the manuals that came with the car. Probably explains a few issues I have had with parts and specs (fuel filter, etc.)


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  4. Steve Magnusson

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    #4 Steve Magnusson, Sep 18, 2021
    You mean it was born a euro version ;). If it came into the US legally, it would've gotten some modifications/additions. Often these changes get removed/returned to euro form (and some not too well/correctly), but you could still have some present. If you can post some pics of the engine bay, I would be glad to comment about your present status.
     
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  5. Eddie.h

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    #5 Eddie.h, Sep 18, 2021
    It’s currently happy hour here so photos tomorrow. Thanks for the help.


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  6. afterburner

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    #6 afterburner, Sep 18, 2021
    The fuse box has a different number of fuses, among lots of changes to the wiring. EU 24 fuse positions, US 28.
     
  7. Eddie.h

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    #8 theunissenguido, Sep 20, 2021
    Isnt that a mondial 8 plenum ? I have seen this also on a Swiss version....QV with mondial 8 plenum.
     
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    #9 Steve Magnusson, Sep 20, 2021
    Looks pretty stock euro to me -- if it ever had any US federalization modifications, they aren't there anymore. (Don't know anything about the 2V plenum, but, if a very early production QV SN, maybe it could make sense. I'm recalling that Mondial QV was the first QV model released.)
     
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    #10 theunissenguido, Sep 20, 2021
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    QV plenum from august 1982 on...but Swiss model also with the upper picture plenum
    A picture with the timing belts will give us more info.
     
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    #11 Brooklands, Sep 22, 2021
    No air pump pulley, or valve cover air pump bracket like US version. Coolant overflow tank also a different shape than on my US 83 QV coupe. Yours looks to be a Euro version to me.

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  12. Eddie.h

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    #12 Eddie.h, Sep 22, 2021
    Thanks for all the info. Here is a shot of the belts. The VIN says euro also, used the handy VIN checker. Image Unavailable, Please Login


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    #13 afterburner, Sep 22, 2021
    Single belt car with a Sanden compressor!
     
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    #14 DadsFerrari, Sep 24, 2021
    Always wondered how an Oct83 Cab shows as an 83 and an 84 on docs... maybe a late 83 turned into an 84 leftover
     
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    #15 afterburner, Sep 24, 2021
    My 83 quattrovalvole has 3.2L rear hubs and anti roll bars... you find out when you buy parts!
     

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