News

Used FF or new Panamera Turbo?

Discussion in 'FF/Lusso/F12/812S' started by Georgemaser, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    If you leave behind how much better car the Lusso is (in a matter of fact I've never heard for many problems with the Lusso and I also never heard about a Porsche, that doesn't break :) , so if you leave behind those things... think about depreciation and I guess the Panamera will make even less sense :)

    And let's also admit, that the Panamera is ugly AF! :D
     
    Jaguar36 likes this.
  2. To remove this ad click here.

  3. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    5,728
    Weston, MA
    Full Name:
    Paul
    You're pulling our leg, right? :confused:
     
    fineito likes this.
  4. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    Do you think any of the things I said is not true?
     
  5. 95spiderman

    95spiderman F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    10,692
    ny
    i like ff/lusso more than panamera but to be fair, pana is very reliable and much more so than any ferrari. plus while pana depreciates a lot, its not going to lose $200k in 5 yrs like ff does.
     
  6. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    The thread is about NEW Panamera and USED FF. And can absolutely not agree, that the Panamera Turbo is more reliable than a FF. It just isn't.
     
  7. To remove this ad click here.

  8. 95spiderman

    95spiderman F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    10,692
    ny
    you would be more confident in a used ff than a new panamera?! i had a 1st gen pana4s for 4 yrs with never an issue
     
    Boomhauer likes this.
  9. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    Sure. All Ferraris after 2010 are as reliable as they should be. I don't want to spam the thread with this, but as the Ferraris are getting more and more reliable, the Porsches are starting to be not as reliable as they were. And there is no such thing as a model without ANY problems anyway. It's a car after all.

    And again , the reliability and the depretiation are 2 main subjects, but let's not forget the looks, the interior, the driving experience and THE SOUND :)
     
    timjen88 likes this.
  10. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 Veteran
    Rossa Subscribed

    The FF took time to grow on me though


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  11. yamashek

    yamashek Rookie

    Jun 5, 2006
    36
  12. To remove this ad click here.

  13. 95spiderman

    95spiderman F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    10,692
    ny
    ferrari v12. yup!
     
  14. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    5,728
    Weston, MA
    Full Name:
    Paul
    Well I was focusing on your comment that you never heard of a Porsche that didn't break. I would say there is not a car made today, or ever made, that didn't break, even a Ferrari. ;)

    As far as depreciation, certainly in raw dollars the FF has more, but as a percentage to purchase price or MSRP, I really don't know how much difference there is between the two. Maybe the Panamera does depreciate more, I'd like you to show us the numbers.
     
  15. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    Of course there isn't a car these days, that can't break and that's exacly my point, as I said in my last post.

    Anyway, FFs will probably not get any lower than they are now and as for the Panameras - the first ones are now about 20 000 Euro I think, so what more to be said? :)
     
  16. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
    5,728
    Weston, MA
    Full Name:
    Paul
    As I said, you can't go by raw dollars, or euros as it were. By what percentage to MSRP does the Panamera depreciate more than a FF? Those are the numbers I'd like you to show us.
     
  17. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    That's not the subject, my friend. The subject is for a USEd FF and NEW Panamera Turbo. So I have already told you the numbers.
     
  18. rumen1

    rumen1 Formula 3
    Silver Subscribed Owner

    Jun 23, 2012
    1,214
    Bulgaria
    Anyway, since I decided to look the prices a little bit... A new 2012 FF here was about 270 000 Euro. Now the average price is about 140-150 000 Euro, which is about 55% of the original price. A new 2012 Panamera I think was about 100 000 Euro. Now they are about 30 000 Euro and for sure they will continue to depreciate like the Cayennes and will hit 10 000 Euro at some point. And the FF will not. The FF is much more desireable than the 612 because of the storage space and 4x4 system. Probably 100 000 Euro is the lowest it will ever get. So do you have any other offtopic questions or that will be all? :)
     
  19. 2HotShoes

    2HotShoes Karting

    Sep 2, 2015
    97
    Chicago, IL USA
    Full Name:
    Tal & Beryl
    This isn’t a serious question is it? It can’t be. Yeah, must be a joke...
     

Share This Page