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V-12 Engine into 308 Build, over on Grassroots

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  1. mk e

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    Still working but on getting it to start nice mostly and tonight was pretty good....just a couple flutters of the throttle pedal in the 1st couple seconds to keep it running. I need to think a bit about how to make it better.

    I never did sync the TBs after the reassembly so I got started on the, #10 was showing about 39kPa when everything else was 45-51 and trying to fix it I realized it ain't so easy to read the screws with the decklid installed. I mostly got it but the lap top died, finish up tomorrow.

    and something is leaking....I'll need to eight find and fix it or make a diaper of some sort because the engine isn't coming back out.

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    I'm selling this beautiful original Ferrari BLUE PRINT from the Ferrari 412 engine project! It is not a reproduction but a technical drawing of the engine design drawn up by Ferrari engineers on letterhead.

    This design is a unique and original piece there are no other copies.

    Measures 47x115cm (62x130)

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    Not me. The text from the ad.
     
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    it does sound cool...and no copys I believe means WAY out of my price range :(
     
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    Here is a short video explaining how I setup the ECU for cold starting followed by a pretty nice start from about 20C/68F


    Then short drive where I got a little crazy...I went the OPPOSITE way around the neighborhood tonight!
     
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    Good videos. I am so use to looking at the ECU Masters software it nice to see others software and strategies.
     
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    If you have seen something you thing might work better point me to it. This is something I thought should work so I gave it a try but I'm open to other thoughts.
     
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    Looks good. Do you have a data logger? I added one to my ECUBlack. It is much better than having my laptop with me all the time. I do still carry the laptop for some things.
     
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    Cold start win dude. That software ain't bad neither.
     
  15. mk e

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    I can plug a USB drive into the ECU. I need to set that up with a switch to start/stop logging just haven't gotten that far yet.
     
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    Another cold start, forgot to open the throttle once I did it started fine. Then out for a drive, none of the column controls worked, because of course they didn't. The sound isn't great, I'll try something different tomorrow. When I got back I pulled in...then thought better and pulled back out to let it cool a bit just in case and the hot start went about perfect. I might pull a little fuel out of the VE table and move it to low rpm in the warm up table....its pretty good as is but I suspect it could be slightly better. I ran a log through the drive that I will look over and tune up the fuel map before next drive.

     
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    Tonight was the first REAL drive and now sitting here drink in hand, I'm honestly not sure how I could be any happy with the result...other than idle its not even tuned yet, all the numbers in the fuel table are guesses based on what Dynomation thought the air flow would be....which means the hp&torque estimates can't be very far off I'd think.

    It's a touch loud for my taste but that is all I've got in the minus column at the moment (other than 17 year of my life). Out on the road everything I loved about my first 308 drive came rushing back.....the smooth acceleration and and higher rpm roar of a naturally aspirated engine in particular. The blower I added made the car quick and that was wonderful but it came at the expense of the sound. The sound is back, and so is the well mannered normal driving, I miss the power steering but other than that I'm not sure how it gets better. When I first drove this car (I bought it site unseen) I pulled over than called my father who though the purchase was a terrible idea to say "everyone should experience this at least once in there lives"....I felt the same way today.you think a stock 308 is a joy to drive?, stop by for a ride :D
     
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    Many congratulations to you Mark. The journey, oh my the journey, but what a result. I will take you up on that ride, I owe a visit to the Poconos for another matter, Delaware water gap specifically, so you’re on the way.
     
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    Please do! This driving experience it defiantly something that should be shared!
     
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    Most excellent! Yay! Double yay!!
     
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    Congratulations! I know it has to feel good! I am still reading the build thread trying to catch up. You are an artisan.
     
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    What was the leak in post# 2002?
     
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    I think there is no reason to focus on oil leaks when there is a bigger issue of hoodlums tearing around, making a racket!
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    I've got oil leaking somewhere, its puddling kind of under the frame rails it looks like. I'll need to figure it out at some point. There was some smoke coming off the rear header last night when I got back, it seemed like just oil in the wrap being hot for the first time but something I want to keep an eye on.
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    As the end appears to be in sight, in a strange way, it's going to be disappointing when you're done. I've thoroughly enjoyed following your build. It has been educational, entertaining and inspiring.
     
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    Fantastic progress!

    It's funny, since we share similar cam profiles and on the 4L QV builds that cam profile has a very unique and distinctive sound. You've got extra cylinders but it's still there. Yeah and it's loud on V8, has to be very loud on the 12. Only way I've found to muzzle it and low speed and idle is we had capristo make us custom valved mufflers. Open the valve though and it's really loud.

    Sounds good!
     
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